Pro Palestine protests in London

[fillyboy]

Some reports suggest that the mad mullers bumped off 30000 in a 2 / 3 day period ??

36,500 on the 8th & 9th January according to 1 report.

Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

More than 36,500 Iranians were killed by security forces during the January 8-9 crackdown on nationwide protests, making it the deadliest two-day protest massacre in history, according to documents reviewed by Iran International's Editorial Board.

www.iranintl.com

 

[Highway Man]

I suspect that Highway Man supported the killing of protesters in NI as well. (I don't know about fillyboy or others).
It is strange that Highway Man would be concerned about the welfare of protesters in Iran.
I think he has a very simple and narrow criteria for which protesters he supports, and which he thinks should be killed or injured, with impunity.

You have me wrong, I believe in discipline and common sense, I have no feelings towards the protestors in Iran. I don't agree with these Palestinian protests in the UK, I do not agree with illegal immigration and do not agree that we have any duty of care to house them and feed them in hotels. I believe that our government should be looking out for British people rather than illegal immigrants. I believe in keeping these invaders from our shores and should be deported back to where they came from. I have not got a racist bone in me. If you find any of this odd then you are part of the problem that we have in this country.

 

[Odds]

Ever since the crackdown on protests in Iran between January 8 and 10, there has been contention on what the true death toll of those bloody events is. According to figures provided by the Iranian government, 3,117 people were killed, including civilians and security forces. Yet estimates from outside the country have put the number at anywhere between 5,000 and a staggering 36,500.

This wide range not only reflects the fact that it has been extremely difficult to verify these reports, but also that there has been a concerted effort to use the death count to manufacture global consent for an attack on Iran and, in a deceitful rhetoric, downplay the official death toll of the genocide in Gaza.

As of today (Jan 31st), the US-based organisation HRANA (Human Rights Activists News Agency) has cited more than 6,000 deaths and a further 17,000-plus cases under examination.

The same day, United States news magazine Time published an article titled “Iran Protest Death Toll Could Top 30,000, According to Local Health Officials”. It claimed that “as many as 30,000 people could have been killed in the streets of Iran on Jan. 8 and 9 alone” based on the accounts of two senior officials of the country’s Ministry of Health, whose identities were not revealed for security reasons. Notably, the magazine admitted in the text that it did not possess any means to independently confirm that number.

 

[King Billy]

You have me wrong, I believe in discipline and common sense,

Sure you do, your version of discipline:

Sounds fair enough and an hour is long enough for them to get their message out. Even if they dispersed within the hour might still be worth tear gassing them just to be safe.

You're demonstrating a desire to mete out wanton violence on a group of protesters who were responding to requests.
You would have been welcome in the IDF or ICE or The Parachute Regiment in NI. I gather that's the type of person they look for. Those who unilaterally resort to violence for no reason.

I don't agree with these Palestinian protests in the UK,

So you wish them harm? That's not discipline, that's just thuggish behaviour.

I do not agree with illegal immigration and do not agree that we have any duty of care to house them and feed them in hotels.

Your beliefs have little influence over the UN Refugee Charter.

I believe that our government should be looking out for British people rather than illegal immigrants.

The government is not caring for illegal immigrants. If they're genuinely illegal, the government will detain and deport them.
If you're referring to asylum seekers, they're not illegal, and the government has a duty of care toward them, pending a decision on their application. Even a failed application does not absolve the government of its duty of care towards them.

I believe in keeping these invaders from our shores

They're not invading. Is English your first language?

invade
(of an armed force) enter (a country or region) so as to subjugate or occupy it.
"during the Second World War the island was invaded by the Axis powers"

and should be deported back to where they came from.

You don't support the concept of seeking asylum? OK, that's your belief.

• The 14th Dalai Lama (1959): Fled Tibet following a failed uprising against Chinese rule and was granted asylum in India, where he established a government-in-exile.
• Leon Trotsky (1929): After being exiled from the Soviet Union by Joseph Stalin, he was granted asylum in Turkey, and later lived in France, Norway, and Mexico.
• Karl Marx (1849): Following the 1848 revolutions in Europe, the philosopher sought refuge in London.
• Svetlana Alliluyeva (1967): The daughter of Joseph Stalin defected to the United States and sought asylum, claiming she was treated as a "political prisoner" in the Soviet Union.
• Sheikh Hasina (2024): The former Prime Minister of Bangladesh fled to India following the "July Revolution" in Bangladesh.
• Evo Morales (2019): The former President of Bolivia was granted asylum in Mexico after resigning amid political unrest.
• Cardinal József Mindszenty (1956): A critic of the communist Hungarian government, he lived for 15 years in the U.S. embassy in Budapest.
• Chen Guangcheng (2012): A blind Chinese human rights activist who escaped house arrest and sought refuge in the U.S. embassy in Beijing before traveling to the United States.
• Amos Yee (2017): A Singaporean blogger granted asylum in the United States after being prosecuted for videos critical of religion and the Singaporean government.
• Benny Wenda (2002): A West Papuan independence leader who escaped from prison in Indonesia and was granted political asylum in the UK.
• Albert Einstein (1933): Fled Nazi Germany to the United States, becoming a prominent refugee.
• Sigmund Freud (1938): Fled Austria for London following the Nazi annexation (Anschluss).
• Freddie Mercury (1964): The Queen lead singer fled with his family from Zanzibar to England during the Zanzibar Revolution.
• Sergey Brin (1979): The Google co-founder came to the U.S. as a child fleeing anti-Semitism in the Soviet Union.
• Yusra Mardini (2015): A Syrian swimmer who fled to Germany and competed in the 2016 Rio Olympics as part of the Refugee Olympic Athletes Team.
• U.S. Embassy Cases: Beyond Chen Guangcheng, the U.S. has served as a place of refuge for many, such as Fang Lizhi, a Chinese astrophysicist who lived in the U.S. embassy in Beijing for over a year following the Tiananmen Square protests.
• Cold War Defectors: Numerous ballet dancers, chess grandmasters, and scientists defected from the Soviet Union during the Cold War.
• UK Asylum History: London has historically been a, safe haven, hosting figures like Victor Hugo, Lenin, and more recently, many refugees from the Balkan and Syrian conflicts.

Thankfully, your belief is not shared among the majority.

I have not got a racist bone in me.

What do you have against asylum seekers? You've never met them, you've never talked to them, you have no idea of their back story.
Is it 'cos they're black?

If you find any of this odd then you are part of the problem that we have in this country.

Your excuses for your conduct and attitude is very odd. It's not my problem that your beliefs are so odd.

 

[Highway Man]

Sure you do, your version of discipline:

You're demonstrating a desire to mete out wanton violence on a group of protesters who were responding to requests.
You would have been welcome in the IDF or ICE or The Parachute Regiment in NI. I gather that's the type of person they look for. Those who unilaterally resort to violence for no reason.


So you wish them harm? That's not discipline, that's just thuggish behaviour.


Your beliefs have little influence over the UN Refugee Charter.


The government is not caring for illegal immigrants. If they're genuinely illegal, the government will detain and deport them.
If you're referring to asylum seekers, they're not illegal, and the government has a duty of care toward them, pending a decision on their application. Even a failed application does not absolve the government of its duty of care towards them.


They're not invading. Is English your first language?




You don't support the concept of seeking asylum? OK, that's your belief.

• The 14th Dalai Lama (1959): Fled Tibet following a failed uprising against Chinese rule and was granted asylum in India, where he established a government-in-exile.
• Leon Trotsky (1929): After being exiled from the Soviet Union by Joseph Stalin, he was granted asylum in Turkey, and later lived in France, Norway, and Mexico.
• Karl Marx (1849): Following the 1848 revolutions in Europe, the philosopher sought refuge in London.
• Svetlana Alliluyeva (1967): The daughter of Joseph Stalin defected to the United States and sought asylum, claiming she was treated as a "political prisoner" in the Soviet Union.
• Sheikh Hasina (2024): The former Prime Minister of Bangladesh fled to India following the "July Revolution" in Bangladesh.
• Evo Morales (2019): The former President of Bolivia was granted asylum in Mexico after resigning amid political unrest.
• Cardinal József Mindszenty (1956): A critic of the communist Hungarian government, he lived for 15 years in the U.S. embassy in Budapest.
• Chen Guangcheng (2012): A blind Chinese human rights activist who escaped house arrest and sought refuge in the U.S. embassy in Beijing before traveling to the United States.
• Amos Yee (2017): A Singaporean blogger granted asylum in the United States after being prosecuted for videos critical of religion and the Singaporean government.
• Benny Wenda (2002): A West Papuan independence leader who escaped from prison in Indonesia and was granted political asylum in the UK.
• Albert Einstein (1933): Fled Nazi Germany to the United States, becoming a prominent refugee.
• Sigmund Freud (1938): Fled Austria for London following the Nazi annexation (Anschluss).
• Freddie Mercury (1964): The Queen lead singer fled with his family from Zanzibar to England during the Zanzibar Revolution.
• Sergey Brin (1979): The Google co-founder came to the U.S. as a child fleeing anti-Semitism in the Soviet Union.
• Yusra Mardini (2015): A Syrian swimmer who fled to Germany and competed in the 2016 Rio Olympics as part of the Refugee Olympic Athletes Team.
• U.S. Embassy Cases: Beyond Chen Guangcheng, the U.S. has served as a place of refuge for many, such as Fang Lizhi, a Chinese astrophysicist who lived in the U.S. embassy in Beijing for over a year following the Tiananmen Square protests.
• Cold War Defectors: Numerous ballet dancers, chess grandmasters, and scientists defected from the Soviet Union during the Cold War.
• UK Asylum History: London has historically been a, safe haven, hosting figures like Victor Hugo, Lenin, and more recently, many refugees from the Balkan and Syrian conflicts.

Thankfully, your belief is not shared among the majority.


What do you have against asylum seekers? You've never met them, you've never talked to them, you have no idea of their back story.
Is it 'cos they're black?


Your excuses for your conduct and attitude is very odd. It's not my problem that your beliefs are so odd.

Cannot be bothered with your twisted views.. I am obviously more aware than you are of the world and especially the devastation and degradation of Europe with these invaders, yes they are invaders. Europe is quickly being taken over from Albanian maffia, Afghans, Sirian's, Sudanese gangs, Senegal maffia gangs. All dealing drugs and turning what was once tourist attractions into unrecognisable areas and no go areas. All because loonies like you believe that these thugs are genuine asylum seekers, they are not asylum seekers they are invading Europe under this guise. We in the UK are not alone in this and you will soon reap what you sow. You will soon be relying on people like me who are not afraid to say that they are not welcome and who would be willing to stand against them.

 

[Odds]

Cannot be bothered with your twisted views.. I am obviously more aware than you are of the world and especially the devastation and degradation of Europe with these invaders, yes they are invaders. Europe is quickly being taken over from Albanian maffia, Afghans, Sirian's, Sudanese gangs, Senegal maffia gangs. All dealing drugs and turning what was once tourist attractions into unrecognisable areas and no go areas. All because loonies like you believe that these thugs are genuine asylum seekers, they are not asylum seekers they are invading Europe under this guise. We in the UK are not alone in this and you will soon reap what you sow. You will soon be relying on people like me who are not afraid to say that they are not welcome and who would be willing to stand against them.

witch areas of the UK have been desecrated in such manner?
planning a weekend break this Spring and want to know places i shouldn't consider going.

 

[Highway Man]

witch areas of the UK have been desecrated in such manner?
planning a weekend break this Spring and want to know places i shouldn't consider going.

Go wherever you like as you won't notice any difference. Don't forget to take your immigrants welcome plaque on a stick to really fit in.

 

[King Billy]

Cannot be bothered with your twisted views..

I assume that's Highway Man speak for "unable to formulate a coherent response".

I am obviously more aware than you are of the world

By what divine insight do you assume that?
Before you answer, please bear in mind that conceit is not a gift nor a desirable characteristic.

and especially the devastation and degradation of Europe with these invaders, yes they are invaders.

I am convinced that English is not your first language. You do not understand the meaning of "invader", and it's not my intention to teach you English.

Europe is quickly being taken over from Albanian maffia, Afghans, Sirian's, Sudanese gangs, Senegal maffia gangs. All dealing drugs and turning what was once tourist attractions into unrecognisable areas and no go areas.

Thanks for your opinion of Europe.
Could you be a little more specific about which areas I should avoid, in Europe? Your response to Odds appears to suggest that the whole of Europe is FUBAR'd.

All because loonies like you

On what basis do you classify me as a "loony"? Is it because I disagree with your opinion. So in your eyes, your opinion is the only one that matters, and all those that have different opinions are loonies?

believe that these thugs are genuine asylum seekers,

You appear to display far more thuggish characteristics than asylum seekers. You crave the opportunity to mete out wanton violence to protesters.
Very thuggish in an ICE kind of way.

they are not asylum seekers they are invading Europe under this guise.

Then it's up to the government to assess their application. Not for you to identify them, from a distance, as invaders.
I hope you are never called on to serve your country, you'd have everybody firing at ghosts and shadows.
That's how friendly fire incidents occur, trembling trigger fingers.

We in the UK are not alone in this and you will soon reap what you sow. You will soon be relying on people like me who are not afraid to say that they are not welcome and who would be willing to stand against them.

You are more likely to shoot at anything that moves. I wouldn't feel safe if you were anywhere near me. You'd be jumping at shadows and shooting at noises in the night. You are evidently incapable of discerning friend from foe.
Would your desire for wanton violence be satiated if you killed some asylum seekers?

 

[Highway Man]

I assume that's Highway Man speak for "unable to formulate a coherent response".


By what divine insight do you assume that?
Before you answer, please bear in mind that conceit is not a gift nor a desirable characteristic.


I am convinced that English is not your first language. You do not understand the meaning of "invader", and it's not my intention to teach you English.


Thanks for your opinion of Europe.
Could you be a little more specific about which areas I should avoid, in Europe? Your response to Odds appears to suggest that the whole of Europe is FUBAR'd.


On what basis do you classify me as a "loony"? Is it because I disagree with your opinion. So in your eyes, your opinion is the only one that matters, and all those that have different opinions are loonies?


You appear to display far more thuggish characteristics than asylum seekers. You crave the opportunity to mete out wanton violence to protesters.
Very thuggish in an ICE kind of way.


Then it's up to the government to assess their application. Not for you to identify them, from a distance, as invaders.
I hope you are never called on to serve your country, you'd have everybody firing at ghosts and shadows.
That's how friendly fire incidents occur, trembling trigger fingers.


You are more likely to shoot at anything that moves. I wouldn't feel safe if you were anywhere near me. You'd be jumping at shadows and shooting at noises in the night. You are evidently incapable of discerning friend from foe.
Would your desire for wanton violence be satiated if you killed some asylum seekers?

As I say, loony

 

[King Billy]

As I say, loony

You must have put as much thought into that response as you put into forming your opinions of the world around you.
Be careful of those shadows when you're out tonight. If you hear some noises, it's not the wind, it's the invaders.

 

[Highway Man]

You must have put as much thought into that response as you put into forming your opinions of the world around you.
Be careful of those shadows when you're out tonight. If you hear some noises, it's not the wind, it's the invaders.

Don't you worry your little loony head over my safety and awareness worry over your own, sounds like you need to.

 

[King Billy]

Don't you worry your little loony head over my safety and awareness worry over your own, sounds like you need to.

Your opinions are coloured by your perception that UK and Europe is being invaded and the invaders are trashing the whole of Europe. I think you're a little paranoid.
I have no intention to respond to anymore of your childish jibes just because sensible discussion is beyond your ability.

 

[Highway Man]

Thanks for your opinion of Europe.
Could you be a little more specific about which areas I should avoid, in Europe? Your response to Odds appears to suggest that the whole of Europe is FUBAR'd.

Yes I have recently completed a European tour in a suite aboard a luxury cruise, something only those with money can do. However you could do similar in a standard cabin or even drive for the likes of you. My areas for you to avoid would be the following.
Marseille, unless you like drug dealing and gang warfare.
Hamburg in Germany, great to see the folks of Senegal making this their new home. A lovely drug area is either heaven or hell.
Parris has turned into an unrecognisable tourist area that looks more like a refugee camp nowadays.
Lots of other areas but do your own travelling and see yourself.

 

[Vinty]

It is strange that Highway Man would be concerned about the welfare of protesters in Iran

Yet can't wait for Trumps Armada to bomb the **** out of Iran an it's people.

 

[Highway Man]

I have no intention to respond to anymore of your childish jibes just because sensible discussion is beyond your ability.

I will take that as a valid written contract.