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Probation service to be renantionalised after another Grayling SNAFU

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by SirGalahad, 16 May 2019.

  1. donrkebab

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    Do you have a screw loose?
     
  2. ban-all-sheds

    ban-all-sheds

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    Why the right-wing assumption that it never is?

    Will you please tell us which of the following you think should be publicly owned, and which not, and why.

    Electricity generation & distribution
    Gas extraction/import & distribution
    Water supply
    Roads
    Railways
    Police
    Fire service
    Armed forces
    Schools
    Higher education
    Health service
    Social services
    Benefits administration
    Prisons
    Courts
    Probation service
    Postal service
    Banks
     
  3. ban-all-sheds

    ban-all-sheds

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    No.

    Do you have a fundamental problem which stops you from understanding the implications of what you say?

    Are you able to explain what is it about socialism which denies human nature and only works under a totalitarian regime like North Korea?

    Can you confirm that you don't think that here the state ownership of things would not qualify as socialism but it does in North Korea?
     
  4. motorbiking

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    https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/summary-government-procurement-scale-nature-contracting-uk

    seems clear and different to me.
     
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  5. motorbiking

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    my view:
    Electricity generation & distribution - mixed
    Gas extraction/import & distribution - mixed
    Water supply - state
    Roads - state
    Railways - unless there is consumer choice - state
    Police - state
    Fire service - state
    Armed forces - state
    Schools - already mixed
    Higher education - private not for profit
    Health service - mixed
    Social services - mixed
    Benefits administration - state
    Prisons - state
    Courts - state
    Probation service - state
    Postal service - private
    Banks - private
     
  6. andy11

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    Police, armed services, prison, courts, fire, coastguard - only ever the government.

    Electric, gas, water, roads, railways, post, banking - government or private but must always be to specifications and standards set by governments.

    Welfare payments - only by governments elected solely by the taxpayers from whom those welfare payments are taken.

    Education & health - the government, but not the way our government does it!



    (I won't say "the state" as it has a loony-left, right-on, Citizen Smith pinko commie ring to it, comrades.)
     
  7. JohnD

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    So you say state pensions should be administered by a government elected only by people below state pension age, who are in employment and paying NI contributions.

    It's going to be a bit complicated having two parallel governments.
     
  8. Notch7

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    Bless, Ellal is wrong again (y):ROFLMAO:
     
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  9. andy11

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    You take things very literally don't you?
     
  10. JohnD

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    So you're telling us now that you don't mean what you said.
     
  11. andy11

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    Is this the Jeremy Kyle show?
     
  12. JohnD

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    And you'd be giving up your vote if you were out of work, or long-term ill or disabled in an accident, or looking after children or an invalid wife or parent.

    Sounds very fair.
     
  13. ellal

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    seems clear to me that some people are easily bamboozled by semantics :rolleyes:

    Says the person who only had two boxes to choose from - and ticked the wrong one because of self confessed ignorance :LOL:
     
  14. andy11

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    You keep saying that I said things that I didn't say. Are you high on drugs?
     
  15. noseall

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    Like this little nugget...

    What did you mean elected solely by taxpayers? Who do you think it excludes?
     
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