Pulled hep2o insert out of pipe when demounting and reinserted

[dilalio]

Is any in line isolation valve allowed on heating pipework? Would be very useful for myself to avoid draining down the pipework.

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Or full bore lever valves, but the above need less room to operate.

 

[TryAgain1]

You can hang rads on plasterboard using the correct fixings.

It depends on the size and type of rad.
Timber grounds are always preferred but not always feasible.

You wanna try hanging them on paramount partition board! That's fun! Lol.

Manufacturers instructions specify hang only on timber or masonry. Plasterboard hanging is a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[dilalio]

Manufacturers instructions specify hang only on timber or masonry. Plasterboard hanging is a disaster waiting to happen.

MI's assume a perfect world!

 

[TryAgain1]

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Or full bore lever valves, but the above need less room to operate.

Do these full bore lever valves need to be above the floorboards and accessible?

 

[TryAgain1]

MI's assume a perfect world!

Very true but the further from the MI's one strays the more meaningless the guarantee or assumed longevity of the pipework and fittings. That goes for copper too, e.g bad soldering on 20% of copper fittings.

 

[denso13]

Do these full bore lever valves need to be above the floorboards and accessible?

No.

 

[dilalio]

Very true but the further from the MI's one strays the more meaningless the guarantee or assumed longevity of the pipework and fittings. That goes for copper too, e.g bad soldering on 20% of copper fittings.

I've never known anyone to make a warranty claim for a radiator once it's been fitted and working.

It's only the expensive one's off tinternet that are obscure, fancy and badly engineered, that fail as soon as you fill them up - then good luck with warranty on those.

Also, manufacturers nowdays are taking the same route as insurers... Find any way out of settling a claim!

Profitibility = Offer long warranties to attract punters and then void them for the slightest infringement of ridiculously overthetop installation instructions LAWS!

Shower pump manufacturers in particular have followed this model, then boilers, then other "luxury" items.

 

[TryAgain1]

MI's assume a perfect world!

Very true but the further from the MI's one strays the more meaningless the guarantee or assumed longevity of the pipework and fittings. That goes for copper too, e.g bad soldering on 20% of copper fittings.

I've never known anyone to make a warranty claim for a radiator once it's been fitted and working.

It's only the expensive one's off tinternet that are obscure, fancy and badly engineered, that fail as soon as you fill them up - then good luck with warranty on those.

Also, manufacturers nowdays are taking the same route as insurers... Find any way out of settling a claim!

Profitibility = Offer long warranties to attract punters and then void them for the slightest infringement of ridiculously overthetop installation instructions LAWS!

Shower pump manufacturers in particular have followed this model, then boilers, then other "luxury" items.

I'm just talking about taking measures to stop any issues with a heating system like properly mounting a radiator with hex screws to either timber or masonry. I've no interest in going down the insurers claims route as they will wriggle out of paying everytime. All my rads are standard type 22 (few type 21s) from tool station. Separately, out of interest, did you find out whg these hep2o black o rings failed inside 28/22/15mm elbows? Improper installation?

 

[TryAgain1]

I think you're good after 5 years!

The inserts usually get stuck in the fittings when demounting... You can get them out but risk damaging the o ring the insert is stuck on.

Same thing happens with speedfit but with them you can fully undo the locking nut and remove the insert from the unbarbed direction.

I sadly did this 2 weeks ago on 2 inserts (2 out of 5 max) so said 2 could fail. At some point I will switch out the 15mm insert and associated pipework. When renewing the 15mm heo2o insert and elbow (insert stuck in the elbow) do I also need to renew the 15mm pipe as well? Or can I get away with just renewing the insert and elbow?

 

[denso13]

When renewing the 15mm heo2o insert and elbow (insert stuck in the elbow) do I also need to renew the 15mm pipe as well?

No.

Or can I get away with just renewing the insert and elbow?

I wouldn't even do that, but yes, if you want.