Ratty old light...

[HaveNoClueUK]

This is my next project. As this is not as simple as the overhead light I have just done upstairs.

I am replacing this broken old tired and worn out nightmare with a simple cheapo pendent light for the time being.

I see there are a few things going on here. One large gray wire coming down. 2 larger sheaths which contain a red and black each.

I can see that the red from one and black from another are connected into one place and the same with the other connection.

***CORRECTION The reds are connected together and the blacks are same.



Yes, those are the earth wires twisted together.

What is the correct configuration for the new pendent light?

Thanks again everyone. Without you guys so far, half my house wouldn't have electricity!


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[EFLImpudence]

One large gray wire coming down.

What wires are in this? I can't see in the picture.

2 larger sheaths which contain a red and black each

***CORRECTION The reds are connected together and the blacks are same.

Ok.

Yes, those are the earth wires twisted together.

Should be covered in green&yellow sleeve. There will probably be a terminal in the new pendant to fit them.

What is the correct configuration for the new pendent light?

Not sure yet. Did it work before?

 

[HaveNoClueUK]

I dont know if it worked before...

It is a light by the back door, between a flourescent bar light in the kitchen and bathroom.


The light itself is old and broken, so I never attempted to put a bulb in it.

If you look in the pic, you will see the gray wire which is connected, then the next two sheaths which contain the black and reds...

I can try to get up on a ladder in a bit and get another pic.



edit... lol I cant see whats inside the lone gray wire, it looks like to me, just a gray wire thats connected somewhere

 

[Taylortwocities]

OK the

One large gray wire coming down

Does that go to a terminal on its own? or is something else connected to it, cannot see from the picture.


It sounds like that the two reds you need to connect together in a sparate terminal block.

That will leave you with two terminals on the existing lamp holder with some wires in each.
Those two terminals represent the L and N connections on your new light, so just move them across as they are. And connect the earth to the new light if an earth connection s present.

Job done.

PS DO turn the power off before starting!

 

[HaveNoClueUK]

OK the

One large gray wire coming down

Does that go to a terminal on its own? or is something else connected to it, cannot see from the picture.

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It does appear to go into its own terminal...just haven't seen this as of yet in any of the other overhead lights.


This light is in the kitchen extension of a terraced house and i really am not sure if it every worked at any point!

 

[sparkwright]

So you are saying the single the wire goes in a terminal on it's own?

The single goes to L of the new rose, the same block as the brown flex it should have.

The two blacks goes to the N of the new rose, the same block as the blue flex it should have.

The two reds go to the centre terminal of the new rose.

The two earth wires get sleeved in green and yellow sleeving and put into the earth terminal.

Check all factory made connections on the new pendant are tight.

Remember you cannot fit a pendant in a bathroom.

 

[RF Lighting]

Remember you cannot fit a pendant in a bathroom.

Yes you can.

 

[HaveNoClueUK]

So you are saying the single the wire goes in a terminal on it's own?

The single goes to L of the new rose, the same block as the brown flex it should have.

The two blacks goes to the N of the new rose, the same block as the blue flex it should have.

The two reds go to the centre terminal of the new rose.

The two earth wires get sleeved in green and yellow sleeving and put into the earth terminal.

Check all factory made connections on the new pendant are tight.

Remember you cannot fit a pendant in a bathroom.

Thank you for all the information This light is not in the bathroom, but just outside of it in the kitchen area.

 

[HaveNoClueUK]

Remember you cannot fit a pendant in a bathroom.

Yes you can.

The Bathroom currently has a pendent light in it. That one is going for replacement as well but with something else.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Some old bayonet fittings have three terminals (one for live loop) but

still unsure about the third 'grey' cable.

 

[sparkwright]

Remember you cannot fit a pendant in a bathroom.

Yes you can.

What am I thinking of then?

Skirted shroud only in a bathroom?

 

[EFLImpudence]

Lamp should be above the 2.25m of zone 2.

 

[RF Lighting]

Remember you cannot fit a pendant in a bathroom.

Yes you can.

What am I thinking of then?

Skirted shroud only in a bathroom?

I vaguely recall something about that, but I've never seen it in the regs.

Depending on the ceiling height a pendant may not be suitable as it will be at least 6" lower and may end up being in a restricted zone.

 

[sparkwright]

Remember you cannot fit a pendant in a bathroom.

Yes you can.

What am I thinking of then?

Skirted shroud only in a bathroom?

I vaguely recall something about that, but I've never seen it in the regs.

Depending on the ceiling height a pendant may not be suitable as it will be at least 6" lower and may end up being in a restricted zone.

I can recall something about the so called 'home office' skirt on most battenholders for bathrooms.

Surely in a bathroom the condensation would run down the flex of a regular pendant and run into the lampholder?

 

[RF Lighting]

I suppose it's up to the designer to decide if that is going to be a problem and if it is then 512.2 says you must fit something else.