Recycling Tory policies

[Deluks]

Following today's headline news about military sites being used to house refugees, the previous government announced the same thing in 2023, causing Yvette Cooper to brand it as "an admission of failure on asylum policy"

We're just going round in circles!

UK asylum: Ex-military bases to be used in migrant housing plan

The move will cut down on the use of private hotels, immigration minister Robert Jenrick says.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Following today's headline news about military sites being used to house refugees, the previous government announced the same thing in 2023, causing Yvette Cooper to brand it as "an admission of failure on asylum policy"

We're just going round in circles!

UK asylum: Ex-military bases to be used in migrant housing plan

The move will cut down on the use of private hotels, immigration minister Robert Jenrick says.

www.bbc.co.uk

I'd use a word more appropriate, like pendulum swings. How about pendulous as a word to describe British Politics?

 

[Deluks]

I'd use a word more appropriate, like pendulum swings. How about pendulous as a word to describe British Politics?

I'd use pendulous to describe massive t*ts, so yes I suppose that would be appropriate.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Yes it comes across as conspiracy theory-esque, however I'm more and more convinced they (government past and present) don't want to solve this in the true sense of the word.

Whether it's because they (the small boat people) are a useful diversion from other socioeconomic failures or something else I don't know.

 

[motorbiking]

Until someone is willing to take a more hostile approach, it will continue. I don't think governments want the problem to continue, its very high on most people's agenda, when you look at the polling.

Rachel Reeves is about to stick her hand deeper in to people's pockets to fund her government's failing while at the same time half of that is probably spent processing and housing people that have no right to be here.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Until someone is willing to take a more hostile approach, it will continue. I don't think governments want the problem to continue, its very high on most people's agenda, when you look at the polling.

Rachel Reeves is about to stick her hand deeper in to people's pockets to fund her government's failing while at the same time half of that is probably spent processing and housing people that have no right to be here.

Don't talk about processing, unless you recognise the past issues that are now coming to light

 

[motorbiking]

Don't talk about processing, unless you recognise the past issues that are now coming to light

such as ?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Who cut back all the processing ?

 

[Murdochcat]

its so easy to be in opposition, as Labour are finding out. did they not learn anything in 14 years? seemingly not

 

[aveatry]

Until someone is willing to take a more hostile approach, it will continue. I don't think governments want the problem to continue, its very high on most people's agenda, when you look at the polling.

Rachel Reeves is about to stick her hand deeper in to people's pockets to fund her government's failing while at the same time half of that is probably spent processing and housing people that have no right to be here.

15b to be precise

 

[aveatry]

I said it in June

They should never have been in hotels, ex RAF base in tents would be just fine.

 

[morqthana]

Until someone is willing to take a more hostile approach, it will continue. I don't think governments want the problem to continue, its very high on most people's agenda, when you look at the polling.

It really isn't.

Rachel Reeves is about to stick her hand deeper in to people's pockets to fund her government's failing while at the same time half of that is probably spent processing and housing people that have no right to be here.

How do you know that they have no right to be here if you don't process their claims?

 

[morqthana]

Don't talk about processing, unless you recognise the past issues that are now coming to light

such as ?

Over the past six years, the Home Office has presided over an increasingly expensive asylum accommodation system. The expected cost of the Home Office’s asylum accommodation contracts for the ten years between 2019–29 has more than tripled, from £4.5 billion to £15.3 billion. External factors—the Covid-19 pandemic and the dramatic increase in small boat arrivals—and decisions by the previous government—such as pausing asylum decision-making while it pursued the Rwanda scheme —have meant that the Home Office has had to accommodate a growing number of people for longer periods of time.
...
In this report we examine how the Home Office responded at an operational level to the dramatic increase in demand for asylum accommodation and explore how the system for delivering accommodation could be strengthened and reformed. We heard powerful evidence that during the 2019–2024 Parliament the Home Office focused on pursuing high-risk, poorly planned policy solutions.

 

[morqthana]

I said it in June

They should never have been in hotels, ex RAF base in tents would be just fine.

The department is considering the use of large sites in its approach to asylum accommodation, having previously said it would move away from their use. In principle, large sites can provide suitable temporary accommodation. However, they have generally proved more costly to deliver than hotel accommodation and will not enable the department to drive down costs in the same way as expanding Dispersal Accommodation. If the department chooses to pursue large sites, it needs to fully understand and accept this trade off. It must learn the lessons from its previous mistakes in rushing to deliver short-term solutions that later unravel.

...

The Home Office also tried to reduce the cost of asylum spending through procuring alternative, cheaper forms of accommodation. The department hoped to deliver alternative accommodation to hotels through the large sites programme. However, this delivered far fewer bedspaces than planned, was generally more costly than hotels, and led to substantial losses where sites were procured by the Home Office but turned out not to be suitable.

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In September 2024, the Home Office cancelled plans for an asylum accommodation site at RAF Scampton after concluding that the site was not value for money. The Home Office lost £48.5 million that had been invested in the site.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

How do you know that they have no right to be here if you don't process their claims?

Asking a sensible question from someone deeply immersed in bigotry is like asking a chemist to perform brain surgery.
They have an idea were it is, they might even be aware of the symptoms, but they have no idea of the cause, nor the treatment