Reform did well. Again.

[denso13]

Great idea allowing unvetted people with no background checks simply arriving here and housing them

No one is suggesting that.

 

[Highway Man]

I'm not allowed to say what I think should be in place? Good grief...

I agree with you and probably so does every politician, but we have no facilities to process them before reaching our shores. Even if we did do that, do you think those that get refused would simply go away and noit come here as they are doing currently?

 

[Highway Man]

No one is suggesting that.

That is exactly what is happening

 

[denso13]

I agree with you and probably so does every politician, but we have no facilities to process them before reaching our shores

We should have opened them years ago.

Even if we did do that, do you think those that get refused would simply go away and noit come here as they are doing currently?

Not with proper security arrangements in place.

 

[denso13]

That is exactly what is happening

And I've said it should be changed.

 

[Highway Man]

And I've said it should be changed.

It should, I agree.

 

[Highway Man]

Mostly it’s men because they hope once they get to a safe country, they can hopefully claim asylum for their family

They are crossing safe country's and continents to get here,

 

[denso13]

They are crossing safe country's and continents to get here,

Yes.

 

[Highway Man]

That’s because women, children and elderly lack the stamina for the arduous, dangerous journey.

Mostly it’s men because they hope once they get to a safe country, they can hopefully claim asylum for their family

The ones that lack the stamina to get here?

 

[denso13]

The ones that lack the stamina to get here?

Frail, elderly, women, children, that sort of thing.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

why can't people see Farage is just another Trump ?

yeah he sounds great with all the right ideas, he is a great salesman, I love hearing what he has to say, I really do - but he is another Trump
we absolutely do not want him running our country

It's evident they're echoing much of what Trump and/or his administration say and indeed are doing. We as individuals either agree with some/all of it or we don't. It's also been pointed out to them when they've been doing tv interviews post local elections, that much of what they're promising (e.g. not accepting migrants in councils they control) can't be delivered at council level. i.e. legally they wouldn't be allowed to do it. And that they'll realise there aren't actually £millions to be saved at council level, not unless they start to cut even more services, some of which will be popular with ... you guessed it ... the very people who might have voted for them

And some of what they're saying is slightly concerning e.g. if the CE of the council doesn't agree to implement certain things, they might be moved on. Again, very Trump-esque.

Also, if they were to gain power and become our UK government, do we really want a repeat of something reflecting DOGE in our country? Do we really want teams of people selected by Reform going around our public services asking every employee 'so, what is it you do?' and if the answer doesn't fit a certain criteria, that person gets the sack? It all sounds good and a certain demographic of the electorate lap that sort of thing up. However the reality of hundreds maybe thousands of people getting dumped on the dole is somewhat different. I read one piece (no I don't have the link) saying even in the States some are now questioning the actions of DOGE. Swaths of people sacked and now a realisation some of them are actually needed.

And I question how much of it a Reform government could actually do here in the UK legally when it comes to the more dramatic and instant stuff, unless they were changing laws, removing us from ECHR etc.

I've said it in other threads, get ready for it. What's 'it'? Reform coming up with the excuses every other party does when they can't/won't deliver on what they've promised. It won't be any different if they do gain UK power, I can hear the excuses already

 

[pete01]

8 million pound per day on hotels...something has got to be done, tents? mmm

 

[diy_fun_uk]

8 million pound per day on hotels...something has got to be done, tents? mmm

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Their line when asked about this is 'well, it's good enough for France, why not here?'

I suspect that's one thing, whether at local council or government level, they wouldn't get very far with. I don't want illegal migrants here any more than many other folk, however neither do I want them freezing their balls off in tents in the depths of winter.

And when it's pointed out to them not all migrants in France are in tents, they're stumped as to how to respond.

 

[Notch7]

8 million pound per day on hotels...something has got to be done, tents? mmm

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its a dog whistle for idiots

Andrea Jenkyns job as Mayor dose not have housing migrant in its scope

 

[pete01]

its a dog whistle for idiots

Andrea Jenkyns job as Mayor dose not have housing migrant in its scope

Yes, love or hate the migrant problem nobody wants them to freeze to death.