He didn't receive anything from him though. 
How strict are the councils with this certifying after work is completed malarky?
How strict are the councils with this certifying after work is completed malarky?
rewiring no regulation compliance cert. needed?
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It is not date work was done it is the date it was planned so as long as planned before Part P came in then no need for completion certificate.
However there will still be a requirement for an installation certificate which shows that tests were carried out and results noted.
However there will still be a requirement for an installation certificate which shows that tests were carried out and results noted.
He didn't receive anything from him though.
he meant that he didn't get a Building Regulations certificate, not that this qualified electrician contravened the Wiring Regulations by not issuing an EIC.
And regularisation costs twice what the normal approval does. In total it could get near to £1,000.
i will be honest i didnt buy the place until 2005, sorry i said 2000 but thought the buyer might be on this forum 
impossible to say the works started in 2004 as we didnt move in until summer 2005. sorry for not making this clear but i didnt think these dates would matter when i posted.....
there was no installation certificate afterwards so i dont have this, i have nothing.
impossible to say the works started in 2004
as we didnt move in until summer 2005. sorry for not making this clear but i didnt think these dates would matter when i posted.....there was no installation certificate afterwards so i dont have this, i have nothing.
That's not so, I'm afraid. Building Regulations transitional arrangements only apply to work already submitted for approval.
And even if it were I don't think that the solicitor would be carrying out due diligence if he didn't ask for proof that it was planned, e.g. correspondence, minutes of meetings, invoices for design work, dated submissions of plans and quotes to the client etc.
Otherwise anybody who had been in a house since before 2005 could at any time say "Oh I always planned to rewire".
ESAD.
Most Council hold to a 6-12 month window from work done to point where they may take enforcement action.
Yours being 5+ years won't interest them. It will interest the potential purchasers solicitor since you have declared work done since moving in that should have building control notification and part P sign off via a scheme provider.
You now have a choice:-
Ask mate that did works to return and complete a EIC for the property and supply a copy to the solicitor.
Volunteer to have a completely neutral contractor appointed to do a periodic inspection report, and accept the cost of any remedial on that report.
Or you could commission a scheme member contractor and ask them to update the works to 17th edition. The 17th came out in July 2008 and the best "badge of cert" for the property would be 17th cert, with correct 10mm earth bonding, and a CU that works to auto discon supply (ADS) which is the requirement via 17th for domestic properties.
A PIR would be about £200, a new CU, bonding and 17th cert circa £500 *
* pure guess, based on no issues with existing wiring, easy bonding runs and a board with less than 8 circuits.
Yours being 5+ years won't interest them. It will interest the potential purchasers solicitor since you have declared work done since moving in that should have building control notification and part P sign off via a scheme provider.
You now have a choice:-
Ask mate that did works to return and complete a EIC for the property and supply a copy to the solicitor.
Volunteer to have a completely neutral contractor appointed to do a periodic inspection report, and accept the cost of any remedial on that report.
Or you could commission a scheme member contractor and ask them to update the works to 17th edition. The 17th came out in July 2008 and the best "badge of cert" for the property would be 17th cert, with correct 10mm earth bonding, and a CU that works to auto discon supply (ADS) which is the requirement via 17th for domestic properties.
A PIR would be about £200, a new CU, bonding and 17th cert circa £500 *
* pure guess, based on no issues with existing wiring, easy bonding runs and a board with less than 8 circuits.
I think you've got two options:
1. 'fess up to the buyers. They might not care. They might accept a periodic inspection report. They might be willing to let it go in return for a reduced price.
2. Ask the council for a regularisation certificate. This will take a bit of time and it will cost you a few notes.
1. 'fess up to the buyers. They might not care. They might accept a periodic inspection report. They might be willing to let it go in return for a reduced price.
2. Ask the council for a regularisation certificate. This will take a bit of time and it will cost you a few notes.
Sorry you feel that way Shed but thanks for your comments, I was just being overly paranoid and I didn’t know the dates would actually matter. As solicitors and the like are involved I was a little concerned. FYI, I think you’ve actually misquoted me there but maybe I deserve that.
If anyone still cares I think after speaking to the electrician I will go with one of the 2 options above, well I don’t have any other choice!
Cheers Chris/RossR
I just phoned the council and they there was nothing could do and suggest I get a PIR and that was it.....
If anyone still cares I think after speaking to the electrician I will go with one of the 2 options above, well I don’t have any other choice!
Cheers Chris/RossR
I just phoned the council and they there was nothing could do and suggest I get a PIR and that was it.....
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