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Is that the type with LCD display giving time, date and day/night kWh readings? My brother's was that type till he went smart meter. I told Octopus I would be happy to change to that type but they wouldn't do it.
I would prefer (slightly) to keep the functionality but it won't happen with Octopus and if I change supplier I doubt the new one would do it either.
Sounds like a different system with 2 meters. Mine has 1 meter with 2 mileometer-type displays, the RTS telling it which one to use (till it was switched off)
Everything electrical was at day or night rate, probably different if there are storage heaters or dedicated feeds to eg an immersion heater
I have one of those as years ago I changed to a economy 7 tariff but never had any timed stuff but after a while I realised that despite changing my lifestyle to make use of the E7 it actually turned out that it cost me more because the standing charge and the day rate was higher than just a single rate so I changed back to a single rate.
Had about 10 letters and 15 phone calls telling me that my meter is out of date and needs replacing otherwise I will have no heating.
I kept telling them its not a timed thing attached to anything. When ever I send in my readings I just give the day and night number and they get added up together as one day rate.
Yes - well, that plus an awful lot more. It's almost a 'smart' meter, but lacks the comms module and a 'remote disconnector'.
Although mine is configured to just use two of the registers ('day' & 'night') for my E7 tariff, it actually has a total of 8 TOU registers (a 4 maximum demand' ones) for each of which it stores both kWh and kvarh, and can cope with a maximum of 48 switching times, GMT/BST changes and 'seasonal' changes. It also stores lots of events (e.g. 'lost power') and 'tampering' data. The manual runs to nearly 160 pages, but this summarises what it can handle, 'tariff-wise'....
I doubt that any supplier will any longer fit anything other than a 'smart' meter. Despite some people believing that they can 'refuse' to have a 'smart' meter fitted, I suspect that we are gradually approaching the time when any alternatives will simply no longer be 'available' - so they would then have to choose between having a 'smart' meter and not having an electricity supply
That was the second system I had here, other than that the switching was done by an external mechanical time switch, rather than RTD. However, prior to that there had been two separate meters, each with just one 'mileometer-type display', but that was changed pretty soon after I inherited it!
That's always been the case here - from start of my occupation to present, with 'everything electrical' switching between the 'day' and 'night'. tariffs'. There had originally been night storage heaters here, switched by contactors controlled by the same time switch as the meter(s), but they were out-of-service by the time I moved in.
Yes, in the absence of night storage heaters an E7 (or similar) tariff is usually going to cost more than a single-rate tariff for most people. I'm probably an exception, since by adjusted our 'lifestyle' (and doing most water heating by nocturnal immersion) we've managed to benefit from E7 so far - with generally about 50% of our usage being at 'cheap rate' (with most suppliers, 'break-even' is around 35%).
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