Russian Meddling

[vinty]

You mean the FBI?
They Investige criminal activity and have indicted 12 Russians and have convicted two of Trumps closest confidantes.
Do you think Hilary controls the FBI?

You mean the FBI?
They Investige criminal activity and have indicted 12 Russians and have convicted two of Trumps closest confidantes.
Do you think Hilary controls the FBI?

It is interesting to note that the accused Russians are all in Russia therefore unlikely to face trial to determine whether or not they are guilty.
The crimes commited by the 2 former members of Trumps campaign team had nothing to do with election meddling and were commited before they had joined Trumps campaign team.
As for FBI impartiality have a look at its behaviour during the McCarthy era, 100'sof innocent people had their lives ruined by false allegations of being Russian agents and engaging in subversion.

 

[Yafo]

I presume you believe in guilt until proven innocent too.

As I've said, if you're talking about running adverts on facebook, I don't see that the same as forcing the hand of the electorate or doctoring numbers to show one outcome or another. Clinton gained more votes (bound to be the fifth time I've said it now), so if they did, they didn't do a very good job.

Sammy, you have gone very quiet since being asked to say you believe that RUSSIA HAS NOT BEEN MEDDLING?

 

[SammyInnit]

Sammy, you have gone very quiet since being asked to say you believe that RUSSIA HAS NOT BEEN MEDDLING?

Two reasons, I felt what I said was adequate, you can take away what you want from what I said but I'm not going to continue to repeat myself. Secondly it's moved so far away from what I started the topic at I've lost interest.

I was looking at the position of those suggesting Russians would seek to elect a capitalist who is protested by people who support communist ideas and found it ironic, I wasn't particularly interested in the investigation into meddling itself, only the comparison between people who suggest it must have been the reason he won and can't accept he could have possibly won on any other basis.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I was looking at the position of those suggesting Russians would seek to elect a capitalist

Perhaps, as my link showed, Trump is in cahoots with the Russian mafia to launder their money.
You seemed to dismiss this as irrelevant.

who is protested by people who support communist ideas and found it ironic,

Perhaps they don't consider Putin to be communist, socialist or Marxist. Do you?



The US right wing considers anyone left of themselves to be 'communist'.

 

[SammyInnit]

Perhaps, as my link showed, Trump is in cahoots with the Russian mafia to launder their money.
You seemed to dismiss this as irrelevant.

Well, because it was.

it's moved so far away from what I started the topic at I've lost interest.

I was looking at the position of those suggesting Russians would seek to elect a capitalist who is protested by people who support communist ideas and found it ironic,

The US right wing considers anyone left of themselves to be 'communist'.

Ridiculous statement.

Perhaps they don't consider Putin to be communist, socialist or Marxist. Do you?

Considering he's spent most of his life serving the USSR and the later all russia people's front, a 'party' based on statism and authoritarianism, I'm not sure how you could think otherwise.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Ah ok.

You presumably also think that The Democratic People's Republic of North Korea is democratic and the people's.

 

[SammyInnit]

Ah ok.

You presumably also think that The Democratic People's Republic of North Korea is democratic and the people's.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

 

[noseall]

Sammy

you can only take trolling so far. Just roll with it. Trolling Sami will always get stumped for honest answers.

 

[Yafo]

Two reasons, I felt what I said was adequate, you can take away what you want from what I said but I'm not going to continue to repeat myself. Secondly it's moved so far away from what I started the topic at I've lost interest.

I was looking at the position of those suggesting Russians would seek to elect a capitalist who is protested by people who support communist ideas and found it ironic, I wasn't particularly interested in the investigation into meddling itself, only the comparison between people who suggest it must have been the reason he won and can't accept he could have possibly won on any other basis.

Ok, so you still won't answer. Not a problem. I have to make my own reasoning, happy to do so

 

[Notch7]

Two reasons, I felt what I said was adequate, you can take away what you want from what I said but I'm not going to continue to repeat myself. Secondly it's moved so far away from what I started the topic at I've lost interest.

I was looking at the position of those suggesting Russians would seek to elect a capitalist who is protested by people who support communist ideas and found it ironic, I wasn't particularly interested in the investigation into meddling itself, only the comparison between people who suggest it must have been the reason he won and can't accept he could have possibly won on any other basis.

Thats a bit deep for Yafo, I understand he likes to keep it awfully simple.

 

[Yafo]

Thats a bit deep for Yafo, I understand he likes to keep it awfully simple.

Nothing much more simple than a very simple question that gets avoided ?

No need for compliactions over such a very simple point is there. Or is there? Like a swerve is more complicated than a straight line.

But its ok, you poke your fun, I will poke the simple questions.

 

[SammyInnit]

Nothing much more simple than a very simple question that gets avoided ?

No need for compliactions over such a very simple point is there. Or is there? Like a swerve is more complicated than a straight line.

But its ok, you poke your fun, I will poke the simple questions.

I don't believe in a predetermination of guilt without adequate motive or grounds to support that determination.

I've not seen enough evidence first hand to say it did happen.

There's more than one suggestions to say it did happen. Without one the other is just hear-say.

It's a question that can't be answered because I don't know in either case. I thought that was pretty clear from what I've said repeatedly already.

Again, I'm disinterested and uninterested.

 

[noseall]

Blah...blah....blah

Poor scared Sammi. Started a thread and now doesn't like the direction. "Lost interest" he says. Righto boyo.

 

[JohnD]

I don't believe in a predetermination of guilt without adequate motive or grounds to support that determination.

I've not seen enough evidence first hand to say it did happen.

So you objected to Trump saying Hilary should be locked up.

That's interesting.

Did you also object to his anti-Mexican and anti-Muslim speeches?

 

[transam]

Russians involved in cyber war / propaganda

like the USA and the UK then ?????????