SHA and PCT Pay

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SHA=Strategic health Authority
Overseeing
PCT= Primary Care Trust(s).

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  Avon, Gloucestershire & Wiltshire SHA
• Bath and North East Somerset PCT
• Bristol North PCT
• Bristol South and West PCT
• Cheltenham and Tewkesbury PCT
• Cotswold and Vale PCT
• Kennet and North Wiltshire PCT
• South Gloucestershire PCT
• South Wiltshire PCT
• West Wiltshire PCT
• Swindon PCT

Just a small area compared to the whole country.. 10 PCTs

Total Directors inclusive = 159 There may be some acting for two trusts, not many tho' so 10 PCTs gets you 159 director positions ( let us say 12 per PCT about 303 total PCTs so 3636 directors .. Blimey that is some big business .. nonsense !! )
Total Professional Executive Committee, or PEC members = 129
I counted the beggars...
I believe all or part of the PEC membership are part time .. I heard £10k for 6 months of infrequent, if attended meetings..

Tuesday February 24, 2004
Salary levels for chief executives of NHS primary care trusts (PCTs) have shot up by 28% over the past year, figures published today reveal.
The median pay of a PCT chief executive is now £92,500 a year....

PCT chief executives are still earning substantially less than the £107,000 average paid to hospital trust bosses, but their salaries are rising more sharply, up 28% compared with the 5.5% average increase for hospital trust chiefs last year
Overall, about 46% of chief executives of English NHS trusts had salaries of more than £100,000, according to the NHS Boardroom Pay Report 2004. But, in contrast to previous years, no trust chief executive received a bonus payment during the period.
The report, based on an analysis of annual reports from 505 trusts - about 90% of the total - also showed that hospital trust's medical directors received a median total remuneration package worth £115,000 a year, while finance directors earned £77,500.

Costing a bob or two before hands are washed ..
No wonder it is all going bankrupt .. Bigger salaries for providing less. Hospitals of dubious quality...
Could this lot survive in the real world?
Imagine the potential pension costs mounting here... phew ! But not for most of us - you ! There are some changes on the way, but there have been changes ongoing that got us here !!

God bless the Prince of Wales !!
Ah,ha .. 09/12/2005 Found this, later.

The Department of Health has given the green light for a 14-week public consultation on reducing the number of primary care trusts and strategic health authorities in England.
The proposals will mean cuts in SHAs from 28 to around ten, while PCTs could be reduced from 303 to between 130 and 180. Consultation starts on December 14.

Anyone been consulted yet ? Or is this another New Labour type public consultation?

 

[Richardp]

yes I have and loads of other people I know

 

[pickles]

It is the real world

NHS management is Probably a more cut throat enviroment than any private company. Failure, or perceived failure nearly always results in an early departure and stress related problems are high. My other half worked in it for many years. They actually try to be more like private industry than private industry itself. very few people last long and job turn over is high. It's full of politicking and back stabbing

it's an attempt to get more out of failing infrastructure and equipment by setting targets that then have to be administered. Basically it's horrifically underfunded but many of the directors actually worked hard. They fall into two categories, either retired people, or people succesful in their own business who were wanted for their management experience, they were actually there on a regular basis and to some extent working out of a sense of social responsibility. The kind of money they were earning in their own right right would have made the salary largely irrelevant to them. There was definitely some dead wood but overall it was a pretty unpleasant working enviroment, they certainly wern't sitting around doing nothing and a lot of people were grossly overworked

It's easy to knock beaurocrats but the NHS would self destruct in short order without them. They can't be blamed for trying to run things to inadequate budgets that they don't have control over.

Doctors who are dedicated to the NHS and spend all of their time there are very rare, it's usually only the a & e types who have that level of commitment. The medical profession have done a very good job of getting the public to overlook the fact that at senior levels a lot of them spend time looking after their private practices, they may be the heroes at the sharp end when they are there, but if your looking for savings they could definitely give up a few quid.

I may be naive but....... if they were all there all day, wouldn't waiting lists get shorter

I'm not defending some of the silliness that goes on it's just that the problems in the NHS run right through the system and many people who work in it, with the exception of nurses and the blue light services who are definitely underpaid and overworked, could either input more time or take a bit less out

Also people in this country are quick to complain but the simple fact is that no one is willing to pay the levels of tax needed to give the care they wan't. The NHS is second rate compared to european and scandinavian countries and it's no coincidence that taxation is much higher there

It's not rocket science really, if you don't pay for it you don't get it and no amount of silly targets and "management for efficiency" will cure it

There may be overstaffing but management beaurocracy is basically a red herring which suits the government well enough. the people who run it get knocked eg as per the last post and the real issues, underfunding and the level of tax we pay for it get ignored