shaver point spur

[shouldknowbetter]

looking to take a spur from existing ring and install a shaver point. Understand that I should fit a FCU on the spur between existing socket and new shaver point. If I buy a shaver point with fuse fitted e.g.

http://www.builderdepot.co.uk/mk-1-...9xWanImSAK85FWEqiINkkflZOcBd94AfQkaAneO8P8HAQ

then do I still need the FCU?

 

[flameport]

You don't need the FCU, as the fuse is built in.

That product cannot be used in bathrooms.

 

[shouldknowbetter]

Thanks flameport,
so for a bathroom I'd need an FCU unless I can find one with a fuse that is bathroom suitable?

 

[Taylortwocities]

As he said. You cannot use that shaver point in a UK bathroom, under any circumstances.
It does not include the safety isolating transformer. This one does http://www.builderdepot.co.uk/knightsbridge-pure-115v-230v-dual-voltage-shaver-socket.html

To install that, connected to a ring final circuit, you will need
1. An FCU external to the bathroom and
2. A registered electrician to install and notify the work, assuming the shaver point is to be located inside the bathroom zones.

 

[shouldknowbetter]

thanks TTC. I'd seen that one, but just trying to save fitting an FCU if I can get a bathroom suitable one with a fuse.

 

[Echo the husky]

Here is the better MK version. You don't understand, you must only fit a shaver socket with an isolation transformer in a bathroom. You won't find an isolated version with a fuse, they are internally thermally protected and current limited anyway. You don't need an FCU if you supply the shaver socket from the lighting circuit, only if it is being fed from another circuit.

Although RCD protection is not required for the actual isolated shaver socket, it is very likely this will be required for the cables feeding it. Is an RCD fitted to the circuit you intend to extend? Depending on the existing wiring you may need to extend supplementary equipotential bonding to the new shaver socket as well.

 

[shouldknowbetter]

Thanks Freddo. I was aware of the need for the shaver socket to have an isolation transformer for the bathroom, but not aware that I couldn't get a fused one, so thanks for saving me from a pointless search.

I'm actually extending a ring in an adjacent room to add a couple more sockets and thought I'd take the opportunity to fit the spur and get the shaver point in the bathroom, so I'll go down the FCU route (in the adjacent room) for the supply

 

[Echo the husky]

That will be fine. Fit a 3 amp fuse in the FCU and put a lable on it if it isn't obvious what the FCU does, it will save someone scratching thier head when you have moved away. The notes about RCD protection and equipotential bonding still apply.

 

[JohnW2]

I'm actually extending a ring in an adjacent room to add a couple more sockets and thought I'd take the opportunity to fit the spur and get the shaver point in the bathroom, so I'll go down the FCU route (in the adjacent room) for the supply

You haven't responded to TTC's comment about 'bathroom zones'. How far will this shaver point be from a bath or shower? If less than 600mm it would be 'notifiable' work, and the only legal cost-effective approach would probably be to get a registered self-certifying electrician to install it (to notify it yourself could cost a hundred pounds or three).

Kind Regards, John

 

[deadshort]

When did each OP have to respond to all replies ? It makes for a long night………..

DS

 

[JohnW2]

When did each OP have to respond to all replies ? It makes for a long night………..

How many OPs do you see in this thread?

Kind Regards, John