shower problem

[RMS]

rather not!!

We are all learning every day. No one knows it all.

 

[starspark]

very true rms i agree

 

[Goldberg]

there was a leak with the unit. as a very slow amount of water was trickling outside the shower box, but was still functional.

There are stains all over the heater can, but could you explain exactly where you're seeing water drip when the shower is running?

Two other observations:

1. The outlet pipe looks really close to coming off - there should be a clip holding this in placem and it should be made so that it's pushed fully on the can outlet spout.

2. These ex-Newteam shower units are amongst the most technically horrible things on the market. Come the day that the heater can needs to be replaced (and that day might be now), you'd be better off throwing it away and getting something like a Triton T100xr (with Instatrim so that you can keep the pipework where it is).

 

[vygec]

just an update, i spoke with newteam/bristan, and they arranged to send me the following replacement parts:
PCB board
low pressure microswitch.

installed this morning, and has made no difference to the results i was getting from before
is it safe to assume that the shower requires replacing or anything else i can try?
Ta.

 

[Goldberg]

is it safe to assume that the shower requires replacing or anything else i can try?

There are stains all over the heater can, but could you explain exactly where you're seeing water drip when the shower is running?

Two other observations:

1. The outlet pipe looks really close to coming off - there should be a clip holding this in placem and it should be made so that it's pushed fully on the can outlet spout.

2. These ex-Newteam shower units are amongst the most technically horrible things on the market. Come the day that the heater can needs to be replaced (and that day might be now), you'd be better off throwing it away and getting something like a Triton T100xr (with Instatrim so that you can keep the pipework where it is).

 

[bernardgreen]

I am with Goldberg on this one

amongst the most technically horrible things on the market

If removing a safety switch and leaving the circuit open circuit means the unit still works then the design is poor. Far better to be safe only when the switch is connected and closed.

 

[vygec]

im probably just gonna fork out for a new one i think.
not sure whether to go for a direct replacement or a triton,
does anyone know if the T100xr will be ok as a direct replacement, i.e. no re plumbing or hacking of tiles required

 

[securespark]

If you have a water leak, I would not be using the shower at all...

Could the PRV have operated?

 

[vygec]

ive eliminated the leak, that is no longer a problem.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Could the PRV have operated?

You've obviously never had one ot those spring into action...

 

[Goldberg]

Could the PRV have operated?

You've obviously never had one ot those spring into action...

Since there's no spring, neither has anyone else.

The PRD is a one shot device that opens and never closes again. On this Newteam/Bristan unit water merely dribbles from it.

vygec - your shower supply is on the left, whereas the T100xr pipe entry point is at the bottom right. However, you can still fit the T100xr if you buy the Triton Instatrim - effectively an adaptor that will do what you need.

 

[nozspark]

All MIRA showers have LHS cable and water entry...

Mira Vie/Go 8.5kW Approx £100
Mira Sprint 9.5kW Approx £110
Mira Sport 9.5kW Approx £160

 

[ban-all-sheds]

spring vb
1 to move or cause to move suddenly upwards or forwards in a single motion
4 (intr) to come, issue, or arise suddenly
7 to happen or cause to happen unexpectedly: to spring a surprise; the boat sprung a leak

Since there's no spring, neither has anyone else.

 

[Goldberg]

I see; it's dictionary time. It appears that you're in the mood for being precise. Very well.

spring vb
1 to move or cause to move suddenly upwards or forwards in a single motion
4 (intr) to come, issue, or arise suddenly
7 to happen or cause to happen unexpectedly: to spring a surprise; the boat sprung a leak

Please state which one(s) of the above definitions you believe apply/applies to the following apparently whimsical statement:

Could the PRV have operated?

You've obviously never had one ot those spring into action...

...bearing in mind that the shower unit in question is a Newteam/Bristan 'ten.three'.

Then, perhaps you could state whether or not you intended, by your use of the word "obviously", to imply that the PRD could not have operated.

If you didn't, then please state your intended meaning of the word in that context.

If you did, then please state why you think the operation of the PRD on this shower unit is an obvious event, bearing in mind that it isn't.

If you were mistaken about the obviousness, then it would be interesting to know how you came to make such a mistake.

If it was an attempt to mislead, i.e. a pretence of knowing more than you do, then it would be interesting to know why you think it's socially acceptable for you do that.

If it transpires that you were behaving like a "tw@" (sic.) or a "w*nker" (sic.), then it would be interesting to know whether or not you agree that it's acceptable to consider you to be a pathetic hypocrite and to tell you to "**** off" (sic.).

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I see; it's dictionary time. It appears that you're in the mood for being precise.

No - just pointing out that the verb "to spring" is used in many situations where there is no "spring n" involved.

Please state which one(s) of the above definitions you believe apply/applies to the following apparently whimsical statement:

Could the PRV have operated?

You've obviously never had one ot those spring into action...

4 is pretty close, although the sample of definitions wasn't meant to include, or be an exhaustive list of, definitions which were relevant to the statement, it was just pointing out that the verb "to spring" is used in many situations where there is no "spring n" involved.

...bearing in mind that the shower unit in question is a Newteam/Bristan 'ten.three'.

What difference does that make?

Then, perhaps you could state whether or not you intended, by your use of the word "obviously", to imply that the PRD could not have operated.

I did.

If you did, then please state why you think the operation of the PRD on this shower unit is an obvious event.

Because the description of the leak was a small trickle.

When PRDs operate you sure as hell do not get a small trickle coming from inside the shower.


So perhaps now you could do everyone a favour and explain what your motive was, when I used the phrase "spring into action" to describe the operation of a PRD, which would have been a sudden event whether expected or not, for replying "Since there's no spring, neither has anyone else."

Could you also tell us if you really gone through your entire life so far thinking that when people say things like "he sprang into action", or "the boat sprung a leak", or "Hope springs eternal in the human breast" that they were talking about events involving springs?

If you were mistaken about the obviousness, then it would be interesting to know how you came to make such a mistake.

I wasn't.

If it was an attempt to mislead, i.e. a pretence of knowing more than you do, then it would be interesting to know why you think it's socially acceptable for you do that.

It wasn't.

If it transpires that you were behaving like a "tw@" (sic.) or a "w*nker" (sic.), then it would be interesting to know whether or not you agree that it's acceptable to consider you to be a pathetic hypocrite and to tell you to "**** off" (sic.).

Could you also let us know how long you intend to continue behaving like this - there may be some people who would appreciate guidance on whether to click this: