Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

[motorbiking]

Yes it does UNCLOS 19g says so.

U.K. border force can’t go into French waters to do pushbacks, they need permission, they won’t get it.


It doesn’t matter how many times you spin it, pushbacks can’t be done, whatever the political will.

Unfortunately for you, we aren’t America, we don’t have the leverage to bully neighbours

You are making up your own interpretation.

Article 19g defines the illegals as non innocents. The coastal state has the right to take necessary steps to prevent their passage.

They do not have to wait until they have entered their waters. Article 25 sec 1 to 3.

 

[Notch7]

You are making up your own interpretation.

You are

Article 19g defines the illegals as non innocents

You seem to think 19g can only apply to the vessels that suit you.

The coastal state has the right to take necessary steps to prevent their passage.

The coastal state does not have the right to enter French waters to pushback boats.

They do not have to wait until they have entered their waters. Article 25 sec 1 to 3.

No, but British Border force can’t enter French waters to carry out pushbacks because that is not innocent passage.

See Article 19g

 

[noseall]

No it really does. Clause (g)

Your scenarios are pure fantasy and don't exist.

 

[motorbiking]

You are


You seem to think 19g can only apply to the vessels that suit you.


The coastal state does not have the right to enter French waters to pushback boats.


No, but British Border force can’t enter French waters to carry out pushbacks because that is not innocent passage.

See Article 19g

A vessel engaged in preventing non-innocent passage to it territorial waters is not: the loading or unloading of any commodity, currency or person contrary to the customs, fiscal, immigration or sanitary laws and regulations of the coastal State;

An illegal immigrant boat is.

 

[motorbiking]

Your scenarios are pure fantasy and don't exist.

you don't even understand what is being discussed.. as usual.

 

[Notch7]

They do not have to wait until they have entered their waters. Article 25 sec 1 to 3.

Andrew Serdy, a maritime legal expert says “UK authorities would not be allowed in France's territorial waters without consent”

Professor Andrew Serdy​

Prof of the Public Intntl Law of the Sea

Andrew Leslie Serdy | University of Southampton

Professor Andrew Serdy is a Prof of the Public Intntl Law of the Sea at the University of Southampton

www.southampton.ac.uk

 

[Notch7]

A vessel engaged in preventing non-innocent passage to it territorial waters is not: the loading or unloading of any commodity, currency or person contrary to the customs, fiscal, immigration or sanitary laws and regulations of the coastal State;

A British border force entering French waters to do pushbacks is not innocent passage.

British border force needs permission from France unless it is carrying out a rescue

 

[Notch7]

So they are in distress and the French have been a bit heartless, yes? Only fair to drop them back

France says no

 

[pete01]

France says no

Tough.... You can't break the law to enter the country sorry France we are dropping them back

 

[Notch7]

Tough.... You can't break the law to enter the country sorry France we are dropping them back

France is part of the EU, which is where 42% of U.K. exports go.

U.K. doesn’t have the leverage to try what you suggest

 

[pete01]

France is part of the EU, which is where 42% of U.K. exports go.

U.K. doesn’t have the leverage to try what you suggest

So they can put people's lives at risk, but ok stop giving the 500 million

 

[Notch7]

but ok stop giving the 500 million

More small boats will come

 

[Highway Man]

More small boats will come

They will with you nut jobs welcoming them

 

[pete01]

More small boats will come

Yes but at least we won't be paying for the sail away party

 

[Notch7]

They will with you nut jobs welcoming them

I don’t support small boats coming here, I wish they didn’t

Please avoid conflating pointing out the facts with support.