Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

[Notch7]

I've said the strategy needs tweaking. I've suggested how

Reforms strategy is to !tow them back to France"

the only scenario you have come up with which may (not will, just may) result in migrants in a small boat going back to France is if a British vessel rescues them in French water and gets agreement to return them to French coast.

but we all know the numbers that are emergency rescues are very few


Reforms strategy dead in water............they are just flogging a rehash of a 3 year old Troy policy which was cancelled before it got kicked out by the court

 

[blup]

shifting to the left? Like Corbyn did?

Yep, on the economy, and he got more votes, the centre ground in politics is increasingly unstable. Trumpf and Forage demonstrate the popularity of different economic thinking

 

[Notch7]

Do you accept 1 and 2? yes or no?

I agree with what the rules states

the rules dont state France has to accept them on French soil


by the way what you are arguing only refers to those small boats which are in distress in french waters -which is not many.

British boats cant pushback boats in French waters
British boats cant pushback boats in English waters if that makes them in distress
British boats cant pushback boats to keep them in French waters -theres not way to determine which territory they are in

 

[Mottie]

Why is he doing these political campaigns? It’s a bit early.

Starmer? 'Cos he's shìtting himself.

 

[Notch7]

Yep, on the economy, and he got more votes

well he got more left wing votes

he didnt get more swing voters to vote for him -thats what wins elections

personally I think had Corbyn just limited his left wing policies like nationalisation to just water, he might have won

Trumpf and Forage demonstrate the popularity of different economic thinking

when you use the phrase "different economic thinking" you mean tell the public they will be better off whilst actually having polices which will mke ordinary voters worse off

 

[Notch7]

Starmer? 'Cos he's shìtting himself.

I cant blame him there are a lot of easily led fools around that believe Farages bulls hit

and sadly the media is mostly owned by right wing

 

[motorbiking]

I agree with what the rules states

the rules dont state France has to accept them on French soil

How do they comply with their obligation to:

ensure that masters of ships providing assistance by embarking persons in distress at sea are released from their obligations with minimum further deviation from the ships' intended voyage,
and ensure that survivors assisted are disembarked from the assisting ship and delivered to a place of safety, ... as soon as reasonably practicable.

If they are going to refuse the ship from disembarking such persons in a French port?

British boats cant pushback boats in French waters

agree - they can prevent them from entering UK waters

British boats cant pushback boats in English waters if that makes them in distress

So they need to do it carefully and slowly.

British boats cant pushback boats to keep them in French waters -theres not way to determine which territory they are in

You've been told that is nonsense - would you like the exact long and lat of the border? It is as accurate as the boundary of your house on the Land Register title deed.

 

[Notch7]

You've been told that is nonsense - would you like the exact long and lat of the border? It is as accurate as the boundary of your house on the Land Register title deed

gps is accurate to + or - 13 metres

That’s nowhere near accurate enough to be used to do what you say.



The Land register title deed are indicative only so that doesn’t help yer argument ya muppet.

 

[MNW67]

gps is accurate to + or - 13 metres

That’s nowhere near accurate enough to be used to do what you say.

I just Googled and there seems to be an enhanced GPS which is much more accurate.

 

[Highway Man]

What three words

 

[Notch7]

So they need to do it carefully and slowly

Migrants boats can threaten to jump over board.

You can keep going found in circles but the fact is pushbacks are effectively illegal against vulnerable overloaded inflatables in the English Channel.

Border force won’t entertain it nor will the Navy.

Maybe Farage might be able to employ some thugs to have a go…..Farage likes to incite violence as w know by the Farage riots

 

[MNW67]

What three words

RTK?

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Not in the least, how do you think all of the best politicians get in, Trump makes people smile, Borris Johnson makes you smile, Farrage will make you smile, the misery's never get in with the exception of our current one, but he is a clown so it still counts

It's not a smile you see, it's a cringe.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

I've always like coalitions, they stop each other from doing stupid things and they end up doing not much. Keeps everything nice and stable.

You do have to connect with the person you are trying to put in power, or accept you are putting them there to stop the other idiot.

Or the best of worst.

 

[Highway Man]

Or the best of worst.

You forgot the