Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

[aveatry]

You seem to be getting quite upset that your one chance for a left wing government is now lost, as Labour, the only hope for you are so worried about reform, they are all over the place trying to win back support.

He is much further over to the left than that-- think communist party of great Britain - that is closer to the mark.

Kieth a Marjxist? Lol Russsia’s agent in the uk

No the conversation above was all talking about swerve7 - not Starmer who is no way near far enough left for swerve7. To make swerve7 happy you need to go so far left that from there Starmer looks like Enoch Powell

 

[aveatry]

I have to question one of your points:



I am sure that many people are interested in the level of legal immigration.

Not sure they are (as much as illegal ) I think many people talk about immigration but are referring to illegals. Then labour talk about immigration being reduced they are not talking about the illegals

 

[motorbiking]

By what measure is it a failure?

under labour government weve seen:

net migration drop by over 50%

Torry visa changes did that.

currently fastest growing economy in G7

You might want to a look at a graph.

retain triple lock for pensions (Tories said they couldnt)

and took their fuel allowance.

raise minimum wage

Increasing Jobs tax

improve rights for British workers

reducing job vacancies

reverse anti Union laws to help British people

paid their mates off.

lower trade barriers with our largest trade partner

when will that be?

come on Mottie, lets see you provide some specifics

come on Mottie lets see how you think Reform will do better

They will get rid of the Labour government, that is how they will do better.

 

[blup]

No the conversation above was all talking about swerve7 - not Starmer who is no way near far enough left for swerve7. To make swerve7 happy you need to go so far left that from there Starmer looks like Enoch Powell

Swervey is definitely not a Marxist lol

 

[aveatry]

Swervey is definitely not a Marxist lol

I said nearer too

 

[Notch7]

Torry visa changes did that

You mean Tory visa changes caused 1 million plus net migration.

 

[motorbiking]

You mean Tory visa changes caused 1 million plus net migration.

Labour can celebrate being responsible for more people leaving. Particularly, wealthy tax payers.

 

[Notch7]

They will get rid of the Labour government, that is how they will do better

You’ve got nothing, absolutely nothing…..you know Reforms policies are even more dribble than the nonsense you post.





Here are Reforms utter bullsh1t claims to solve small boats:

1) “picking up migrants at sea and return them to France”
That can’t be done, every argument youve tried has failed, it’s utter bullsh1t and you know it

2) “leave ECHR”
even if it was possible it won’t enable migrants to be returned to France.
Oh and it would break Good Friday Agreement and TCA

3) zero illegal immigrants to be settled in UK
That requires a 3rd country agreement, please state where that is



Would you like a discussion on Reforms magic money tree tax and economic plans? We can all do with a laugh seeing you try and justify that absolute pile lies

Poor Motorbiking, happy to lie endlessly when there’s a chance of Reform getting and cutting taxes for the rich

 

[Notch7]

Labour can celebrate being responsible for more people leaving. Particularly, wealthy tax payers.

Hardly any have gone

You need to stop reading the Telegraph, it’s full of lies

 

[motorbiking]

increasing defence to 3%

On when the government will reach spending of 3% of GDP on defence, Starmer says: "I am not going to put arbitrary dates on that percentage."



Like all his plans.

 

[Mottie]

On when the government will reach spending of 3% of GDP on defence, Starmer says: "I am not going to put arbitrary dates on that percentage."



Like all his plans.

Apparently, they’ve downgraded it to an "ambition". FFS.

Labour accused of making an embarrassing retreat on defence spending

The Defence Secretary (pictured, with Sir Keir Starmer) has rowed back on a commitment to spend 3 per cent of GDP on national security by 2034.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Notch7]

No the conversation above was all talking about swerve7 - not Starmer who is no way near far enough left for swerve7. To make swerve7 happy you need to go so far left that from there Starmer looks like Enoch Powell

Aveatry thinks net migration of 1 million is not important.

Aveatry says oh we must only look at the 5% coming here not the 95%

Aveatry lives in a greenhouse, all that co2 is damaging his brain

 

[motorbiking]

Hardly any have gone

You need to stop reading the Telegraph, it’s full of lies

The number of people emigrating from the UK in 2024 was 517,000, a significant increase from 466,000 the previous year.

You need to stop making up Boll@x.

 

[Notch7]

On when the government will reach spending of 3% of GDP on defence, Starmer says: "I am not going to put arbitrary dates on that percentage."



Like all his plans.

What was defence spending under 14 years of Tory power?

 

[motorbiking]

Aveatry thinks net migration of 1 million is not important.

Aveatry says oh we must only look at the 5% coming here not the 95%

Aveatry lives in a greenhouse, all that co2 is damaging his brain

how much do those legal immigrants cost the tax payer?