Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

Has anyone heard from that Tomww idiot? He still owes me a tenna?
OMG I found him on screwfix....

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It just shows the bigger the majority the more scope for infighting. In the early days, starmer punished rebels. Now it seems they've formed a union to collectively punish him. The irony.
Nonsense.

You are a right wing grifter, you spend your time political point scoring instead of debating details and facts.


There has been a significant increase in the number of benefit claimants, PIP claims has doubled and is set to keep on increasing, the benefits bill isn’t a cut but an attempt to slow the increase.

Lots of Labour MPs are not supporting the bill because of the changes it wants to make on the eligibility scores, which would leave too many claimants in dire circumstances.


Labour MPs are putting the concerns of their constituents first, which is exactly how our representative democracy should work.


But you don’t care about facts, you are only interested in point scoring and dishonest grift.
 
Have gone off of 2 tier Kier now then? :ROFLMAO:
Its now 2 tier hat trick Kier
First, there was the slow-motion change of mind on the winter fuel payment for millions of pensioners.
Then there was the decision to hold a statutory inquiry into grooming gangs, having previously said one wasn't necessary.
And now his reverse ferret over welfare
 
As long as we have someone sensible and not a grifiting populist liar.
Talking of populist-------
change of mind on the winter fuel payment for millions of pensioners.
hold a statutory inquiry into grooming gangs, having previously said one wasn't necessary.
reverse ferret over welfare
 
I am only posting this to add a bit of colour. But, the two I know reasonably well are. They have both been Reform voters right from the start, so part of the base. One is a really lovely person in most respects, incredibly kind and generous, but admits to being racist. The other said to me a few months ago "I've got to be honest. I fckin hate these people." By which he means Pakistanis and other Muslims. That finally made me decide that he probably is racist.
The way I look at it is, and here's the important bit first, as long as they're not doing anything illegal and/or obviously nasty, people are entitled to be whatever they want in terms of the 'ists.'

I also reckon many of us are ist in one or more ways, however we don't admit it for obvious reasons.
 
One thing is sure, Labour wont get anywhere near 14 years in power.
It's been a near disaster for them, started by their ludicrous decision on the winter fuel payments. And when I say ludicrous I'm not referring to whether it was a good idea or not, I'm referring to the fact they were THICK not to realise it would go down like a ton of bricks. If they wanted to do it, they should have scheduled it for year two of their tenure, thus waiting to see how things were going with the electorate in year one.

I still cannot believe they did it so soon.
 
One thing is for sure: if Reform win power

Well well well even notch is now entertaining the prospect of Nigel Farage as prime minister. Just like I said would happen, I predicted it even before Farage himself said he was even going to stand as an MP.
I said if you vote labour you will end up with farage as PM in 5 years time Notch said there is zero chance of it happening
 
It's been a near disaster for them, started by their ludicrous decision on the winter fuel payments. And when I say ludicrous I'm not referring to whether it was a good idea or not, I'm referring to the fact they were THICK not to realise it would go down like a ton of bricks. If they wanted to do it, they should have scheduled it for year two of their tenure, thus waiting to see how things were going with the electorate in year one.
I still cannot believe they did it so soon.
It was planned whilst in opposition and the cynically implemented it straight away in the hope that the electorate would forget in 5 years time but because of the stupid mistake that is now 4 years and people will not forget
 
Talking of populist-------
change of mind on the winter fuel payment for millions of pensioners.
hold a statutory inquiry into grooming gangs, having previously said one wasn't necessary.
reverse ferret over welfare
no that does not show he is a populist

Aveatry do you know what the key features of right wing populism are?

would you like me to run through them for you?

It something that would be helpful for you as you are a person who is being taken in with R/W populist propaganda
 
Well well well even notch is now entertaining the prospect of Nigel Farage as prime minister. Just like I said would happen, I predicted it even before Farage himself said he was even going to stand as an MP.
I said if you vote labour you will end up with farage as PM in 5 years time Notch said there is zero chance of it happening
I never realised how utterly stupid the British population is

but people like you are showing me how easily people are brainwashed by the lies of Reform

Aveatry is a massive Reform party supporter but is too cowardly to admit it
 
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