Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

[Highway Man]

No you did not

please refrain from lying.

OMG

 

[noseall]

British people last!

You won't get very far with a (truthless) slogan like that.

You need a few placards decrying migrants, saying such things as 'they're all coming here', Don't worry about the fact that it's a lie, the morons will cheer you on regardless. Then you need a catchy three word chant. No more than three words - remember who you are dealing with.

 

[Notch7]

It is great to see a grown up government in action when the citizens of the country arent happy about a policy and tell their MPs, they listen and the government change their policy.

Of course Labour MPs care about people, unlike Reform party MPs like Lee Anderson who says people only visit food banks because they cant budget and if they knew how to cook they could make a "very nutritious meal for 30 pence"

 

[Highway Man]

Of course Labour MPs care about people,

Well not about the pensioners or the disabled or any farmers. Just wondering who are these people he is for.

 

[Lirefighter]

Farage will flog off the U.K. to foreign business interests including the NHS.

When Reform win a healthy majority in the next general election, scrapping the NHS is one of the areas I hope they have the balls to follow through on. I doubt it though.
There are simply too many brainwashed lefties in this country who are convinced that we either have our NHS, or the American health system.
There is no alternative...
...anywhere in the world that works better than both.
The NHS is a shambles.

 

[Notch7]

When Reform win a healthy majority in the next general election, scrapping the NHS is one of the areas I hope they have the balls to follow through on

Farage wants insurance based private healthcare system if you think thats better than NHS, you are sadly mistaken

There are simply too many brainwashed lefties in this country who are convinced that we either have our NHS, or the American health system.
There is no alternative...

if Reform win power they wont want a mixed model like Germany or France

Reform party are only interested in making loads of money out of flogging the NHS to private providers, so grifters like Lee Anderson can get very rich

There is no alternative...
...anywhere in the world that works better than both.

nobody suggested that

 

[Notch7]

The NHS is a shambles

do you think the NHS would be in a shambles if it was funded more by say 55%?

do you think the NHS would be a shambles if it wasnt having to deal with the brunt of other failing services like mental health, social care, lack of primary care support etc?

do you think the NHS would be in a shambles if it wasnt bled dry by privatisation like: PFI, mates of Tories giving out private healthcare contracts to their mates, recruitment services and consultancy?

funny that, the private sector which you think would be great, is the exact same sector bleeding the NHS dry


poor Lirefighter, lacks ability to have debates of any depth. Shallowness rules the day for you,

 

[Lirefighter]

Farage wants insurance based private healthcare system if you think thats better than NHS, you are sadly mistaken


if Reform win power they wont want a mixed model like Germany or France

Reform party are only interested in making loads of money out of flogging the NHS to private providers, so grifters like Lee Anderson can get very rich


nobody suggested that

Would you prefer a mixed model?

 

[Brigadier]

When Reform win a healthy majority in the next general election, scrapping the NHS is one of the areas I hope they have the balls to follow through on. I doubt it though.
There are simply too many brainwashed lefties in this country who are convinced that we either have our NHS, or the American health system.
There is no alternative...
...anywhere in the world that works better than both.
The NHS is a shambles.

What an absolutely w@nk, cop-out post.

Trying to justify an ideological position.

 

[Lirefighter]

do you think the NHS would be in a shambles if it was funded more by say 55%?

do you think the NHS would be a shambles if it wasnt having to deal with the brunt of other failing services like mental health, social care, lack of primary care support etc?

do you think the NHS would be in a shambles if it wasnt bled dry by privatisation like: PFI, mates of Tories giving out private healthcare contracts to their mates, recruitment services and consultancy?

funny that, the private sector which you think would be great, is the exact same sector bleeding the NHS dry


poor Lirefighter, lacks ability to have debates of any depth. Shallowness rules the day for you,

So you think we should give the NHS more money to waste. And believe me, a massive amount is wasted.
It is wasted because it isn't their money.
They don't care if a new keyboard costs £130.
They don't care if a nurses uniform costs £200.
They don't care if it costs £80 to change a light bulb.
It isn't their money.

 

[Lirefighter]

What an absolutely w@nk, cop-out post.

Trying to justify an ideological position.

What ideological position?

 

[fillyboy]

A lot of people, left leaning people, believe that the NHS is not just the best health system in the world, but is the envy of the world.

It's odd therefore that no other country in the world is interested in copying it.

 

[Highway Man]

So you think we should give the NHS more money to waste. And believe me, a massive amount is wasted.
It is wasted because it isn't their money.
They don't care if a new keyboard costs £130.
They don't care if a nurses uniform costs £200.
They don't care if it costs £80 to change a light bulb.
It isn't their money.

Exactly

 

[Notch7]

Reform councillors, talk the talk…

Tories swipe at 'chaos and confusion' in local councils after Reform UK's takeover of town halls sees a slew of resignations, flag rows, flooding fears and a bitter dispute with firefighters​

ittle more than a week after being elected as a Reform councillor, Andrew Kilburn announced he will no longer take up his role on Durham County Council.

It came after he failed to declare that he worked for the council when standing for election, which is against the law.

Reform said it looked forward to contesting a subsequent by-election in the Benfieldside ward.

In Staffordshire, Wayne Titley resigned as a county councillor just two weeks after being elected.

He won the Eccleshall and Gnosall division for Reform, but was engulfed in a row about a post on his Facebook account.

It called on the Royal Navy to use 'a volley of gun fire' with the aim of 'sinking' small boats in the Channel.

Mr Titley quit for 'personal reasons', while Reform faced criticism over the triggering of a by-election which would cost local taxpayers an estimated £27,000.

Separately, up to a dozen Reform councillors have faced claims of sharing far-right and Islamophobic social media content, including the sharing of posts by Britain First.

There have also been departures of Reform councillors in Kent and Warwickshire.

Reform suspended Kent county councillor Daniel Taylor, who now sits as an independent, following 'a matter which is now with the police'.

And, in Warwickshire, the recently-elected county council leader resigned to leave his 18-year-old deputy in charge.

Reform councillor Rob Howard, who was in power for 41 days, said he had made the decision with 'much regret' and cited health reasons for his departure.

How Reform UK's new councillors are 'sowing chaos' in town halls

A damning dossier has revealed the 'chaos and confusion' that Reform councillors are sowing across England after their local elections success on 1 May.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Notch7]

So you think we should give the NHS more money to waste. And believe me, a massive amount is wasted.
It is wasted because it isn't their money.
They don't care if a new keyboard costs £130.
They don't care if a nurses uniform costs £200.
They don't care if it costs £80 to change a light bulb.
It isn't their money.

Lirefighter, they absolutely do care about the money, they are forced to pay those prices due to private finance.

It’s hilarious you are arguing for privatising the NHS and here you are moaning that private contracts are wasting NHS money.


Lirefighter, you hold strong opinions which are based entirely on falsehoods. Please do yourself a favour and learn some facts then you might hold some more intelligent opinions