Softus said:
Thanks Softus, you're in the mix.
But what's the significance of Rigil? I'm not familiar with the term. It's not a crafty anagram is it?
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Thanks Softus, you're in the mix.
But what's the significance of Rigil? I'm not familiar with the term. It's not a crafty anagram is it?
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"Rigil Kentaurus" is the alternative name for "Alpha Centauri", and can be shortened to "Rigil Kent", which is why I thought "Rigil Steve" was apposite.pjholybloke said:
The word/term "Rigil" is of Arabic origin (if the Wiki I just consulted is correct), and a name that preceded Johann Bayer's mode of designation.
It means summat like 'root of', or 'foot of'. "Rigil" is alternatively spelt "Rigel" - if you were a Trekkie then you'd use the latter. If you were a closet Trekkie then you'd use, er, um, a closet (I presume).
If you were a hapless romantic then you could call your star "Rigel Janet and John" (i.e. substitute Mr & Mrs HB's first names), as a celestial embodiment of the root-of-your-love-that-knows-no-bounds.
Softus said:
Eye of the bull my friend! You know too much..... clearly.
Damn near poetic.
The going is currently soft(us) perhaps?
Think I will put a deadline on this of midnight tonight, don't want to bore you all.
Ta.
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Okey dokey then. Thanks all for your input, much food for thought, so I'll consult with the boss (not allowed to make executive decisions on my own ) and "register" that star name.
Hmmm.
) and "register" that star name.Hmmm.
PJ. The AXAF was renamed way back when to CHANDRA, and the catalogue of stars that all such probes use is the GSC (Hubble Guide Star Catalogue), and therefore any star in the list would have a GSC catalogue designation, and the one that fits the co-ordinates that you have given in your previous post should be:
GSC1-2901099 and the Declination co-ordinates should be preceded by a plus (+) symbol as the star is higher than the celestial equator. No Star in the GSC corresponds to a negative (-) declination for those co-ordinates. From what I have been able to glean about it, this star is an A7II Giant located some 825 light years from Earth +/- 5%. The Star is a spectroscopic binary with the primary, the one we see, having a mass of 11 times the Sun and the secondary component having a mass 5 times the Sun's mass and spectroscopic studies indicate that it is a G6III subgiant. The secondary orbits the primary in a period of 3 days 15 hours 27m 13s, and is estimated to be a mere 20 million km from the surface of the primary.
Also, a phone call to the British Library has indicated that to their knowledge the only catalogues of Stars that appear in the library are those published in normal Astronomical publications aimed at amateur Astronomers or those in specialist publications aimed at the science community. The person I spoke to eventually had no knowledge of the publication of lists of stars named by private individuals, but she did add that that does not mean it was impossible, just unlikely.
To add to what Softus said, the two spellings of Rigel (Rigil) are from the arabic (Rijl) and the Latinised Greek (Rigil). The old Arabic spelling, Rijl, means foot. It can also be spelt Rij'al. Rigel had the name Ar-Rijl-al-gabbar in Babylonian which meant "The foot of the giant one". To the Babylonians what we call Orion was known as Anu, the Giant Shepherd of the sky.
After Johannes Bayer latinised things in the 17th century some Stars retained their designation, although some became abbreviated. Rij' al Anu would have meant the Foot of Anu (Shepherd of the Sky), but simply became Rigel, whilst Alpha Centauri, retained it's name of Rijl al Kentaurus (meaning Foot of the Centaur). This is also known as Tolliman, another Babylonian names meaning Ostriches!
Rigel also has some other oddities about it that make is stand out. Firstly, although designated as Beta Orionis (2nd brightest star in Orion), it is actually brighter than Betelgeuse (Alpha Orionis) as Bayer got this wrong, and Rigel is not a single star, but a triplet of B type supergiants and giants.
GSC1-2901099 and the Declination co-ordinates should be preceded by a plus (+) symbol as the star is higher than the celestial equator. No Star in the GSC corresponds to a negative (-) declination for those co-ordinates. From what I have been able to glean about it, this star is an A7II Giant located some 825 light years from Earth +/- 5%. The Star is a spectroscopic binary with the primary, the one we see, having a mass of 11 times the Sun and the secondary component having a mass 5 times the Sun's mass and spectroscopic studies indicate that it is a G6III subgiant. The secondary orbits the primary in a period of 3 days 15 hours 27m 13s, and is estimated to be a mere 20 million km from the surface of the primary.
Also, a phone call to the British Library has indicated that to their knowledge the only catalogues of Stars that appear in the library are those published in normal Astronomical publications aimed at amateur Astronomers or those in specialist publications aimed at the science community. The person I spoke to eventually had no knowledge of the publication of lists of stars named by private individuals, but she did add that that does not mean it was impossible, just unlikely.
To add to what Softus said, the two spellings of Rigel (Rigil) are from the arabic (Rijl) and the Latinised Greek (Rigil). The old Arabic spelling, Rijl, means foot. It can also be spelt Rij'al. Rigel had the name Ar-Rijl-al-gabbar in Babylonian which meant "The foot of the giant one". To the Babylonians what we call Orion was known as Anu, the Giant Shepherd of the sky.
After Johannes Bayer latinised things in the 17th century some Stars retained their designation, although some became abbreviated. Rij' al Anu would have meant the Foot of Anu (Shepherd of the Sky), but simply became Rigel, whilst Alpha Centauri, retained it's name of Rijl al Kentaurus (meaning Foot of the Centaur). This is also known as Tolliman, another Babylonian names meaning Ostriches!
Rigel also has some other oddities about it that make is stand out. Firstly, although designated as Beta Orionis (2nd brightest star in Orion), it is actually brighter than Betelgeuse (Alpha Orionis) as Bayer got this wrong, and Rigel is not a single star, but a triplet of B type supergiants and giants.
Stulz! I can't believe you went to that much trouble, Uriah Heep could not compete with my current level of humility.
I thank you.
Fascinating detail, I struggle to truly understand the dimensions and distances involved, but I do know that when I look at the night sky, I feel very small....
..bit like now really.
Many thanks once again for your trouble.
Respect.
I thank you.
Fascinating detail, I struggle to truly understand the dimensions and distances involved, but I do know that when I look at the night sky, I feel very small....
..bit like now really.
Many thanks once again for your trouble.
Respect.
E
EdwardCurrent
Hi,
Did the suggestion go down well with the 'management' ??.
What was the final name please ?
Ed
Did the suggestion go down well with the 'management' ??.
What was the final name please ?
Ed
A star is born!
Thank you all for your input, ideas and information, I've had some fun and learnt a little as well.
Had a word with "the boss" and she thought it wasn't fair to "pick a winner" (sooooo feminine), so I suggested a compromise and (a vary rare occassion this one) she agreed.
And the name is...................
Rigil Vast Serest Stulz PJTEH 180205
It even sounds like a star don't it?
Once again thank you all, I'll post a copy of the registration certificate when it arrives.
Thank you all for your input, ideas and information, I've had some fun and learnt a little as well.
Had a word with "the boss" and she thought it wasn't fair to "pick a winner" (sooooo feminine), so I suggested a compromise and (a vary rare occassion this one) she agreed.
And the name is...................
Rigil Vast Serest Stulz PJTEH 180205
It even sounds like a star don't it?
Once again thank you all, I'll post a copy of the registration certificate when it arrives.
Certainment mon ami!
From what Stulz tells me it may be a bit hot so don't forget your shades.
From what Stulz tells me it may be a bit hot so don't forget your shades.
pjholybloke said:
Shades my man..
As it is an A7II Giant, it has very strong UV and X-ray output, not to mention a surface temperatures likely in excess of 10,000°K, I think he will also need to try factor 15 billion Sun block!!!
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