Temporary protection

[jamesarm]

Hi guys,

I am pulling down a lean-to from my house before building an extension. Currently there are sockets on my ring main in the lean-to that I want to re-use when the extension is up. There is part of a lighting circuit and switches that again I would like to reuse.

Due to complications, I cannot pull these cables into the main house out of the way, but I do not need to use the sockets/lights during the works.

Can I replace these sockets etc with junction boxes and wrap them up nice and weather tight for the duration, or should I be buying some specific outdoor gear for the temporary works?

Any advice, much appreciated.

Thanks,

James.

 

[holmslaw]

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[Taylortwocities]

That's one expensive way of temporarily terminating some cables.

What would be wrong with these?? Bearing in mind that the OP said

I do not need to use the sockets/lights during the works.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Currently there are sockets on my ring main in the lean-to that I want to re-use when the extension is up.

Find the last socket inside the house before the ring enters the lean-to, and the first one after it comes back in.

Remove the cables going in & out of the lean-to, and install one linking the two sockets. Then just remove everything in the lean-to, and throw it away.

There is part of a lighting circuit and switches that again I would like to reuse.

Ditto with the cables to & from ceiling roses in the house, but that might be simpler - the lighting circuit, or branch, might terminate there.

Due to complications, I cannot pull these cables into the main house out of the way

Never mind - you shouldn't be planning on reusing the cables anyway.

Switches & sockets yes, if they're in good condition and what you'll need, but not cables.

Can I replace these sockets etc with junction boxes and wrap them up nice and weather tight for the duration, or should I be buying some specific outdoor gear for the temporary works?

Trying to build an extension around live electrical cables is lunacy.

Are you aware of this, BTW? http://www.diynot.com/wiki/electrics:part-p

You can't ignore it if you're doing building work.

 

[jamesarm]

Hi guys,

Thanks for the information. I have taken your advice and removed all electrical sockets/cables etc from the lean to.

For the sockets, there was a completely independant ring from my fuse board, I have discconected this from the fuse board, but cannot remove the cables completely due to the cable run going through walls, under floors etc.

My problem is that I stuck a mains voltage tester to the un-removable tails and it is saying that the cable has 12v live power?

Does this mean its still live? Or is it residual? Or is the B&Q mains tester dodgy?

Much appreciated.

James

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Probably dodgy.

What sort of voltage tester is it, and between what did you measure 12V?

L-N?

L-E?

N-E?

 

[jamesarm]

Hi BOS,

Its a;
B&Q 'VOLTAGE MAINS TESTER' 220-240V/AC rated.
Looks a bit like a digital thermometer

On the back it says;
'this does not require a battery'

I didn't intentionally check n-e etc, but followed the instructions;-

Testing for mains power (AC voltage)
Probe the live metal contact (wire or terminal) with the screwdriver end. Touch the direct test button and the voltage level will be indicated on the digital display on a rising scale: 12v, 36v, 110v, 220v.

There is very little else written on the packaging.

James.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Is the packaging cardboard?

If so, that can be recycled, but the rest, including the tester itself, will just have to go in the bin. You need a proper 2-lead voltage indicator, or at the very least a multimeter.

This looks ideal for a household starter set - multimeter, voltage indicator and dedicated continuity tester, all in a handy case: http://www.amprobe.eu/de_DE/showproduct/115/Junior-Set/

PDF brochure: http://www.amprobe.eu/de_DE/downloadfile/115/beschreibung_1/

All in German, unfortunately, as is the blurb on each product:

Multimeter: http://www.amprobe.eu/de_DE/showproductdata/487/Hexagon_55/

Voltage indicator: http://www.amprobe.eu/de_DE/showproduct/116/2000_α_(alpha)/

Continuity tester: http://www.amprobe.eu/de_DE/showproduct/481/TESTFIX/

but it is sold in the UK - the company is now owned by Fluke, and I guess they haven't got all the websites sorted out yet - contact them (http://www.fluke.co.uk) for info on where to buy.


Also see another discussion here: http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26282

 

[rightnwrong]

Thanks a lot for posting the links here holmslaw. It helps me a lot.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Thanks a lot for posting the links here holmslaw. It helps me a lot.

Eh?? what?????.
It took you 7 months to say thank you about what?

 

[Stoday]

All in German, unfortunately, as is the blurb on each product:

Click the box at the top right and select "English International" to get the site in English. The PDFs include English too.

 

[MalcofArabia]

All in German, unfortunately, as is the blurb on each product:

Click the box at the top right and select "English International" to get the site in English. The PDFs include English too.

Maybe back in July when Fluke obtained the company the website as BaS had not been updated, but as since

 

[jamesarm]

Who's holmslaw?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Ye gods.

This topic pre-dates the introduction of the rating system, so the thumbs down can't have been given at the time - at least three people have come along after the event and voted down my posts, even though at the time the person looking for advice thought they were helpful to him.

Do these people really believe that they are performing a useful service by doing this?

Do they really believe that they are doing the right thing, and that their actions are beyond reproach?

Do they really believe that their behaviour is reasonable?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

All in German, unfortunately, as is the blurb on each product:

Click the box at the top right and select "English International" to get the site in English. The PDFs include English too.

There is an English section of the site.

Those products are not listed there.