Thanks, guys....

[securespark]

...for getting the thread locked.

Don't lose your rag and get all abusive and everything will be cushty.

While we're on that subject, here's some more hideous and barbaric ventures that JB and his Govt have allowed to happen that are directly linked to the Ukraine situation:

TORY FUNDING.

The Tories accepting nearly £2m from Russian oligarchs, and refusing to give it back. This means the party is almost entirely funded by foreign nationals who do not have our best interests at heart.
MPs too have accepted donations.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/n...ussian-money-in-tory-party-resurfaces-313203/

https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...ns-to-34-mps-by-firms-named-in-pandora-papers

THE "B" WORD.

Brexit is just what Putin wanted. He regards Europe as an enemy and wants it to be divided.


NO ASYLUM FOR UKRAINIANS.

No safe and legal route to the UK for fleeing Ukrainian nationals.

Note that Ireland set this in place quickly and without question.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2022/0225/1282977-visa-waiver-ukraine/

 

[transam]

No need to thank people

Er you forgot to mention Chinese funding of particular politicians

probably just an oversight on your part

hideous and barbaric

 

[Deleted member 18243]

This means the party is almost entirely funded by foreign nationals who do not have our best interests at heart.

Correct, well done for stating this.

No safe and legal route to the UK for fleeing Ukrainian nationals.

We should not consider taking Ukrainian refugees. As rotten as that sounds, we are already full of foreigners; we do not have the money any more; there are other countries nearer that they could flee too; and, as with the Middle East wars, the invaded peoples are often just as bad as the invaders. The countries of Eastern Europe, like those of the Middle East have fought with each other like rats in a sack since time began. Think of our best interests.

 

[fillyboy]

This means the party is almost entirely funded by foreign nationals who do not have our best interests at heart.

Wrong, that would be illegal. Political donations can only be accepted from somebody with British citizenship, dual nationality is acceptable.

 

[transam]

This Glasnost caper was the start

one time of day every one new were they were during the Cold War

you had the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact

and than the west with nato

simples

all went pear shaped

 

[fillyboy]

We should not consider taking Ukrainian refugees.

I think we should, and I believe we should send Poland financial assistance for their efforts.

 

[transam]

Wrong, that would be illegal. Political donations can only be accepted from somebody with British citizenship, dual nationality is acceptable.

securespark decided to omit that part

just an over sight he forgot

 

[AngleEyes]

We should not consider taking Ukrainian refugees. As rotten as that sounds, we are already full of foreigners; we do not have the money any more; there are other countries nearer that they could flee too;

We should take all refugees until such time it is deemed they are no longer in danger.
UK is no where near full.
Migrants bring more benefits than they take, that means the country is richer due to migrants, not poorer.

Those other countries that you mention already have massively more refugees that UK.

and, as with the Middle East wars, the invaded peoples are often just as bad as the invaders. The countries of Eastern Europe, like those of the Middle East have fought with each other like rats in a sack since time began. Think of our best interests.

The British Empire taught them how to wage war, and now the UK is making loads of money by selling them all the weapons they can use.
Our best interests are to see the world in a global perspective, not in a me, me, me perspective.

 

[charliegolf]

Wrong, that would be illegal. Political donations can only be accepted from somebody with British citizenship, dual nationality is acceptable.

And I bet it's impossible to circumvent that...

 

[securespark]

securespark decided to omit that part

just an over sight he forgot

Liz Truss says we should not 'conflate people with Russian heritage with people close to the Putin regime'
https://bbc.in/3p9dXhx

 

[fillyboy]

And I bet it's impossible to circumvent that...

 

[transam]

Liz Truss says we should not 'conflate people with Russian heritage with people close to the Putin regime'
https://bbc.in/3p9dXhx

hideous and barbaric

 

[securespark]

You will note she did not deny the extent and origin of the donations.

In case you're wondering, as you don't seem to have extrapolated, is that Brexit was exactly the sort of gift Putin dreamed of.

Why do you think he interfered in other's elections and affairs?

Why do you think politicians and parties were given not insignificant sums of money by Russians.

These things have undoubtedly helped him to get where he is right now

Apparently he was a bully in his school years, and his speciality was lobbing chalk board erasers at the other pupils.

Turns out he never stopped.

If only someone had smacked him in the teeth at school and stopped him in his tracks.

 

[securespark]

That's the irony of JB's statement: what he and his marvellous party have allowed to happen has aided VP in his aim of attacking Ukraine.

 

[transam]

You will note she did not deny the extent and origin of the donations.

In case you're wondering, as you don't seem to have extrapolated, is that Brexit was exactly the sort of gift Putin dreamed of.

Why do you think he interfered in other's elections and affairs?

Why do you think politicians and parties were given not insignificant sums of money by Russians.

These things have undoubtedly helped him to get where he is right now

Apparently he was a bully in his school years, and his speciality was lobbing chalk board erasers at the other pupils.

Turns out he never stopped.

If only someone had smacked him in the teeth at school and stopped him in his tracks.

oh well that’s cleared that up than

no two ways about what you describe is hideaous and barbaric

I for one an totally