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At the time she was education secretary the tory government was looking for cuts.
She saved a few bob by depriving kids over the age of ten from free milk in school. The fact that most of those kids didn't need it isn't the point. There were many kids, either neglected at home or from very poor backgrounds who did. That didn't matter to Maggie, that sums the bi*ch up for me.

Yeah but the money she saved went on to build new primary schools.
What would you have done?

Let the kiddies keep their milk and just borrow to build the new schools?
It's a trade off at the end off the day and it was the right decision imo.

Maybe if the lazy barstewards in british industry at the time had got off their arzes and worked she might not have had to implement such a decision.

Thats why she was responsible for the closure of more grammar schools than any other education secretary past or present!
 
She was a disaster for the people.

Indeed. Except the elite band of Tory mega-rich who became richer.

Just like today.

All in it together?

Well, we are, we're all in it together: Dave and his cronies (and mega-rich Tories) in one pot & the rest of us in another.

Says yet another 'regional' person who has a chip on his shoulder and a grudge against anyone who is better off than himself .

What the hell do you mean by 'regional'? You almost sound like some stuck- up Tory who has never set foot out of London talking about commoners in the Provinces. You're a joke!

You know nothing about me or my social circle, so you cannot comment.
 
At the time she was education secretary the tory government was looking for cuts.
She saved a few bob by depriving kids over the age of ten from free milk in school. The fact that most of those kids didn't need it isn't the point. There were many kids, either neglected at home or from very poor backgrounds who did. That didn't matter to Maggie, that sums the bi*ch up for me.

Yeah but the money she saved went on to build new primary schools.
What would you have done?

Let the kiddies keep their milk and just borrow to build the new schools?
It's a trade off at the end off the day and it was the right decision imo.

Maybe if the lazy barstewards in british industry at the time had got off their arzes and worked she might not have had to implement such a decision.

Thats why she was responsible for the closure of more grammar schools than any other education secretary past or present!

So you are actually saying she can't do right even when she saw the comprehensive schooling system as an equal way for all people to have the same education and prospects.

You have become so twisted over the years you are actually forgetting that a lot of the things she did were actually what the people wanted at the time... doh!
 
Thatcherism is the main reason that the UK's economy/GDP is weaker then Germany, France and if you factor in the black economy possibly even Italy. Germany has shown industry can work with unions in the cooperation with their workers councils. Cameron likes to strut around the world stage like the UK is still some major power with Trident and the possibility of pulling out of the EU, but its Thatcher that put the UK in this weakened state and without Scotland which Thatcherism has played a big part in probably hastening them out of the UK it will be a third rate state. Reminds me a bit of the Byzantine Roman empire in Constantinople a long slow decline.

Not one politico has managed to say any good concrete policy from her that Ive seen today. Just words like strong leader or friend of freedom from the US.
 
At the time she was education secretary the tory government was looking for cuts.
She saved a few bob by depriving kids over the age of ten from free milk in school. The fact that most of those kids didn't need it isn't the point. There were many kids, either neglected at home or from very poor backgrounds who did. That didn't matter to Maggie, that sums the bi*ch up for me.

Yeah but the money she saved went on to build new primary schools.
What would you have done?

Let the kiddies keep their milk and just borrow to build the new schools?
It's a trade off at the end off the day and it was the right decision imo.

Maybe if the lazy barstewards in british industry at the time had got off their arzes and worked she might not have had to implement such a decision.

Thats why she was responsible for the closure of more grammar schools than any other education secretary past or present!

So you are actually saying she can't do right even when she saw the comprehensive schooling system as an equal way for all people to have the same education and prospects.

You have become so twisted over the years you are actually forgetting that a lot of the things she did were actually what the people wanted at the time... doh!

Good post.

Having said that, I am in favour of state-funded grammar schools for the more able, not for the better off.

It's a sad fact of life that we are not all equal in respect of intelligence. As long as we are all given the same opportunities in education, that's acceptable.
 
Before she got in the likes of Red Robbo at British Leyland ran the companies. The workers produced carp. Allowing the foreign imports improved our own quality standards and helped get rid of our pre Maggie unproductive society.

and started the process which got UK production to where it is today, dead. No economic diversity like other countries, dependent on a top heavy banking sector and the US.
 
She was not, fundamentally, committed to democracy.

People from other democratic countries are bemused that she could extinguish the elected council of the nation's largest city, and seize its assets, because she didn't approve of the people its citizens had elected.

When the Iron Curtain started to collapse, she opposed the western, democratic majority of Germany reuniting with the bankrupt, oppressed, previously communist-controlled East, and being rebuilt and democratised.

Ding, Dong.
 
I'm still partying and can't remember why. Remind me. Who's birthday is it?????

Shucks. Just remembered. "Get that bar open again!!"
 
Carn't understand why she's being afforded a ceremonial funeral like heads of state get its like rubbing salt in the wounds of society. Can see a few egg's being thrown on the day might just watch it for that reason.
 
At the time she was education secretary the tory government was looking for cuts.
She saved a few bob by depriving kids over the age of ten from free milk in school. The fact that most of those kids didn't need it isn't the point. There were many kids, either neglected at home or from very poor backgrounds who did. That didn't matter to Maggie, that sums the bi*ch up for me.

And that sums up the typical lefty to me.

Never mind child benefits, never mind most people didn't need it, never mind milk become cheaper whilst wages rose, never mind there was no health impacts from it's withdraw

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Thatcher supported the Kmer Rouge in Cambodia.

Probably the world's most revolting and murderous regime ever.

Not only did she support them diplomatically, but also provided secret military aid.

She was also a great buddy of that murderous military dictator of Chile, ex-General Pinochet.

I am reminded of the late Irish President de Valera, who, on learning of Hitler's death, put on his top hat and went to the German embassy to offer his condolences.



http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm198990/cmhansrd/1990-10-26/Debate-3.html

http://www.newstatesman.com/node/137397

She was subsequently employed by the tobacco industry, which is responsible for the early deaths of more people than all the wars in history.
 
At the time she was education secretary the tory government was looking for cuts.
She saved a few bob by depriving kids over the age of ten from free milk in school. The fact that most of those kids didn't need it isn't the point. There were many kids, either neglected at home or from very poor backgrounds who did. That didn't matter to Maggie, that sums the bi*ch up for me.

And that sums up the typical lefty to me.

Never mind child benefits, never mind most people didn't need it, never mind milk become cheaper whilst wages rose, never mind there was no health impacts from it's withdraw

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What did she do then?

Apart from win an easy war with Argentina with the result that a good swift victory in war is a vote winner. Right wingers say she crushed the unions like it was an achievement but she also crushed British industry with it, the surgeon killing the patient to defeat the cancer.

Being uncompromising like admirers are saying isnt a good political trait. The country went to ratshit because she was too proud to sit down and hammer out agreements and compromises. The mafia has better and more compromising, far sighted leaders then Thatcher.

That Venezuelan fella Chavez wasnt everyones cup of tea but nobody can deny he had left at least some good policies in an NHS and vastly increased literacy among the poor. What concrete policy can right wingers gather behind to say that Thatcher at least did some good things?

Paddy Ashdown said an interesting thing:

"She was better as destroyer of old tired institutions and lazy ways of thinking than she was as the builder of new ones; better at defining divisions than building cohesion."
 
An easy war? A handful more Exocets and it would have been lost.
 
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