The Vietnam war.

Brigadier · 2026-03-15T10:35:33+0000

As Guns n' Roses so eloquently put it,

"What's so civil about war anyway?"

pete01 · 2026-03-15T10:37:15+0000

IT Minion said:
Just calling it a civil war would miss the importance of the occupying forces.

I do apologise

transam · 2026-03-15T10:37:57+0000

Edit post went wrong

transam · 2026-03-15T10:38:59+0000

pete01 said:
Wasn't it a Vietnamese civil war?

Asking for a friend

Yes and no !!

JohnD · 2026-03-15T10:47:40+0000

It took US 20 years to "defeat" the Taliban, and then hand Afghanistan back to them.

Highway Man · 2026-03-15T10:48:41+0000

JohnD said:
It took US 20 years to "defeat" the Taliban, and then hand Afghanistan back to them.

The Taliban was never defeated.

JohnD · 2026-03-15T10:50:24+0000

"Inverted commas"

20 years and billions of dollars "well spent"

transam · 2026-03-15T12:41:55+0000

JohnD said:
It took US 20 years to "defeat" the Taliban, and then hand Afghanistan back to them.

NATO which the US contingent was part of along with Uk , Canadians , danish , Dutch , Germans etc

They spent billions a
On training the Ahfaghan army
Which was a fictitious army they surrendered to the tsliban fruit cakes 2 days after nato forces left

Yep packed up and left there country to the Taliban who came across the border on mopeds and Toyota trucks

If they are not prepared to defend there own country why should any one else

They embezzled millions / billions from the defence budget

Most if the army only put there uniforms on when it was pay day

Waste of space country run by a bunch deranged fruit cakes

Just goes to show when the US pull out all the European nato members packed up and went home

Nato did a lot of good out there be it that it’s now collapsed

And it was a joe Biden decision not trump

Any way the fact that nato pulled out.probably Cheered you up ???

IT Minion · 2026-03-15T12:47:12+0000

transam said:
And it was a joe Biden decision not trump

You do know it was a Trump plan and agreement?

By the time Biden took office the US was already down to 2,500 from around 15,000 or so. That's not to say Biden handled it well but the big picture decision was a Trump one

transam · 2026-03-15T12:49:25+0000

IT Minion said:
You do know it was a Trump plan and agreement?

By the time Biden took office the US was already down to 2,500 from around 15,000 or so. That's not to say Biden handled it well but the big picture decision was a Trump one

4 . Years before the event

Biden was the president / commander in chief and to be honest I don’t blame the Americans / nato pulling out the country is a waste of space

Dire ear a Stan

European nato members could have stayed

Yes exactly

IT Minion · 2026-03-15T12:57:11+0000

transam said:
4 . Years before the event

Biden was the president / commander in chief and to be honest I don’t blame the Americans / nato pulling out the country is a waste of space

Dire ear a Stan

European nato members could have stayed

Yes exactly

Yes, Trump was in charge of scaling down for a year, then Biden got the last 4 months, realised it wasn't going to work and dragged it out and when it went wrong got the blame.

JohnD · 2026-03-15T19:34:05+0000

transam said:
NATO

I've been carefully studying a map of the North Atlantic.

Where are you looking?

transam · 2026-03-15T19:39:19+0000

JohnD said:
I've been carefully studying a map of the North Atlantic.

Where are you looking?

Dunno what your on about

Truth is you probably don’t either ???!!!!

JohnD · 2026-03-15T19:43:05+0000

transam said:
Dunno what your on about

What does "N A T O" stand for?

Is it "bunch of lackeys who do the bidding of the US President?"

transam · 2026-03-15T19:49:00+0000

JohnD said:
What does "N A T O" stand for?

Is it "bunch of lackeys who do the bidding of the US President?"

Take it up with the governments / nato members of Canada
Denmark
UK
Germany
Estonia (?)

And others

You can than take it up with nato directly the screatary general

The Vietnam war.

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