To all you GasSafeists

[Dan Robinson]

A certificate should still be issued however.

There is no debate It is plain and simple. @durhamplumber is wrong.

 

[hard-work]

Dan’s spot on. If it failed you would be requested to do another one when the remedial work was carried out. There is one landlord inspection a year with advice issued where required.

Dan's point, and he does have a strong point, is that there is no failure, it is an inspection. However, a SafeSafe man must isolate a dangerous appliance or installation, so in practice there is failure (the appliance or installation cannot be used), but technically it is an inspection.

 

[ollski]

Despite the debate, if an installation is dangerous the GasSafe man has to cut off the appliance. He cannot walk out leaving a dangerous house. Even an MOT has points on which to watch, however the car maybe safe to drive. An MOT is not black & white, neither is a GasSafe inspection. A dangerous car is given back to the owner in a failed MOT, in a dangerous gas installation it is isolated.

Although if I were to be pedantic he would have no choice not to walk out of a dangerous appliance in a house if refused permission to isolate

 

[hard-work]

If the owner of a house, or even a tenant, ordered you not to touch any appliance in the house, you have to stop. If he orders you out, you have to leave. The law.

 

[Razor900]

Despite the debate, if an installation is dangerous the GasSafe man has to cut off the appliance. He cannot walk out leaving a dangerous house.

However, a SafeSafe man must isolate a dangerous appliance or installation

If the owner of a house, or even a tenant, ordered you not to touch any appliance in the house, you have to stop. If he orders you out, you have to leave. The law.

Make your mind up

It's not a pass or fail test. If everything is ok except for a gas fire that you class as ID then cut and cap is it a partial fail??

It's just a snapshot of the property on the day. If the installation is ID than that's what you put on the notice.

If it's AR or Id and you are refused permission to make safe then you pass the responsibility on to the Gas transporter who will knock on the door with a feather duster before deciding noones home and capping the installation off in the road. Then it gets expensive for someone!

 

[hard-work]

Your last paragraph is correct. However it was pretty clear what I wrote. It is officially an inspection, as been abundantly clarified by Dan, but can be more than that in practice, as an appliance may not be working after a GasSafe visit. Most would conclude that the appliance failed.

Confusing? Of course.

 

[Dan Robinson]

Make your mind up

It's not a pass or fail test. If everything is ok except for a gas fire that you class as ID then cut and cap is it a partial fail??

It's just a snapshot of the property on the day. If the installation is ID than that's what you put on the notice.

If it's AR or Id and you are refused permission to make safe then you pass the responsibility on to the Gas transporter who will knock on the door with a feather duster before deciding noones home and capping the installation off in the road. Then it gets expensive for someone!

Those ones are great fun. Often worth waiting outside in the van for the fireworks