Two Lights Controlled by a Single Switch
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Hmm, maybe loop in at the switch. Need to see the wiring of the other switch.
Still probably no junction box involved.
Still probably no junction box involved.
Just to be clear, these are the 2 lights that come on together that im trying to separate. Do you still need to see inside the other switch for the spotlight?
Which lights have the two switches, the spotlight or the two you are trying to separate?
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WHAT?
Exactly what I expected to see
Spotlight has two switches, the two im trying to separate are controlled by one. Pics are of both lights i want to separate
Is your name Richard H.
No, is yours?
Finally been up the loft to see what I can find. Access still a bit limited but I can see the runs to both lights.
The bedroom light connects directly from itself all the way round to the dressing room light, then the dressing room connection runs to the switch. So that explains whats going on.
So to separate then, is it a case of pulling the cable for the dressing room up and away from the existing switch and use it to feed a new switch, which will also need tapping into existing power.
Then for bedroom light, disconnect from dressing room, pull back through and then pull through to existing switch?
These are the cables for the lights, assume the thicker lighter one 'should' be power?
The bedroom light connects directly from itself all the way round to the dressing room light, then the dressing room connection runs to the switch. So that explains whats going on.
So to separate then, is it a case of pulling the cable for the dressing room up and away from the existing switch and use it to feed a new switch, which will also need tapping into existing power.
Then for bedroom light, disconnect from dressing room, pull back through and then pull through to existing switch?
These are the cables for the lights, assume the thicker lighter one 'should' be power?
From your descriptions, I believe this sketch shows the existing arrangement and one solution of which there are a number of alternatives.
Based on the right hand switch of the 2 gang,the switch in the red box is a prediction which could be wildly incorrect but is not relevant to the job you wish to do.
All you require is access to the 2 twin and earth cables, a cable from the main light to a 5 terminal junction box to include the earth wires which I've not shown for clarity. Wago boxes seem to be the prefered these days, such as https://www.screwfix.com/p/wago-41a-junction-box-55-x-126-x-115mm-grey/412ft wago connectors sold seperately.
Junction boxes are not classed as dodgy DIY wiring if done correctly, despite what some members may say.
All of this assumes you are not able to get another cable down the wall to the switch which would be the best option.
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Thank you, so the connections within the junction box, is that each of the stars in your diagram? So 4 connections?
Yes. I show 4 but don't forget you require a 5th fo the earth. There will be 5 earth wires
Can I just clarify your left hand connection at the switch in your solution diagram for the Main light please? The connection from junction box to switch is blue and brown on your diagram, I assume should be brown? and also what do I use for this wire as that's not currently connected at the switch end? Am I reusing one or do I need to feed a new one?
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