Two Phase and Neutral Ring Final

[securespark]

Called by Landlord, "Power's partly off on the first floor."

Get there, landlord admits to a bit of DIY. Stud wall in kitchen missing, this was poking up into a wet piece of carpet laid over the boards:

The best bit is that it is a broken ring, with one leg on the red phase and the other on the blue phase, both being "protected" by 60A breakers.

Nice!

 

[wingcoax]

And landlord still standing?

 

[securespark]

Not worried so much about him, it's his tenants, waltzing across the wet carpet each morning with naked feet.

I forgot to say, these cut ends were live.

I was aghast with the LL, told him of the shock risk and the possibility of injury or death. His reply?

"Oh, that's no problem. When I got a shock upstairs, the MCB tripped. That'll save their lives, don't worry."

There was no RCD protection for any circuits.

 

[wingcoax]

Not called Rachman is he?

 

[GaryMo]

The guy should be sent to prison as that's the only lesson he'll learn.

 

[Guitarguy]

Careless/Dangerous bar steward!

 

[securespark]

No, but from memory, I don't think you're a million miles off!!

 

[Lectrician]

One leg on each phase? assume an open circuit ring then?

 

[dingbat]

I was aghast with the LL, told him of the shock risk and the possibility of injury or death. His reply?

"Oh, that's no problem. When I got a shock upstairs, the MCB tripped. That'll save their lives, don't worry."

You might remind him of his legal obligations not to kill off his tenants and the very dim view The Law takes of landlords who do that.

 

[securespark]

One leg on each phase? assume an open circuit ring then?

Yup!!

The best bit is that it is a broken ring, with one leg on the red phase and the other on the blue phase, both being "protected" by 60A breakers.

 

[Lectrician]

Perhaps it was two radials then Albeit, incorrectly protected.

 

[securespark]

I thought that, but he admitted to breaking the ring in several places, then moving breakers around the DB, so I think it started life as a ring final on the red phase with a 32A breaker.

(Sounds like a Cluedo deduction!)

 

[Paul_C]

You might remind him of his legal obligations not to kill off his tenants and the very dim view The Law takes of landlords who do that.

Not to mention the fact that he'll find it rather difficult to collect the rent if he does......

 

[ColJack]

I'd type up a report and send it to whoever governs these landlords.. surely there has to be some form of local authority control over the state of a rented property?

at the very least shop him to the LABC for doing electrical work without notification..

 

[CortinaV8]

Who will do what exactly?

Ah yes, nothing.