Ukraine, Light At the End Of The Tunnel, THE END GAME

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Good morning

As stated by me on several threads over the last ten to fifteen days, there will be a ceasefire
via compromises on both sides..

The compromises by the Ukraine as stated by me previously in another thread.

Ukraine will have to give up:

The Crimea (majority there have always been strongly pro Russian.)

The areas held by the separatists prior to the war will remain in their hands and possibly a bit more ie 50/50 chance of that or more likely back to pre all-out war lines.

Ukraine declared they will not join NATO and this has already happened yesterday. (No
need to join NATO if you have a strong, well-armed service in turn acts as a deterrent.)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/zelensky-ukraine-conflict-nato-russia-b2036280.html

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Putin will give up (It's not really Russians conflict but evil Putins)

Other lands already invaded and cite 'We have achieved the goals of our special operations'


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I found it incredible that some that possibly lack education, knowledge, care etc cited my comments were "treasons...appeasement" No they are NOT, my comments are based on historical events around the world aided by my knowledge and skills about people's behaviours in times of crisis.

Putin is in a corner but there is no more time to waste and further humiliate an injured animal like Putin as they are likely to lash out disregarding any consequences. Most will be aware that Putin only cares about himself more than any other politician in the world and that is dangerous if you have access to nukes. I hope all of the above comes to fruition forthwith as the risk of massive misunderstandings and desperation could result in a nuclear disaster.

Thank you

PS: History shows there will be breaches of the ceasefire and things between pro-Russians left in the Ukraine will be made worse by some, not the majority as the majority want peace, pro-Ukriane and pro-Russian living next to each other but like every country and outside stirring there will be up and downs.

PSS: We may need UN peacekeepers in the easy of the Ukraine if ceasefires kept on being breached like they were during the previous 8 years
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Based on info I have received from a cyber associate in Russia. On state tv in Russia, there are open hints that part of the package to a ceasefire is "removing the illegal sanctions." In my knowledge that will happen but not immediately but a behind the scenes agreement to remove them within weeks or a couple of months, possibly.

NB: During the Cuban missile crisis I've read that the USSR agreed to back down on the basis that the USA quietly remove their nukes from Turkey and they did a couple of months later and it was not widely reported
 
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Wtf, like anyone didn't know what Russians main demands were going to be. They literally haven't changed since the first set of negotiations.

* Crimea officially recognised as Russian territory.
* The Eastern Provinces (which are NOT held by Separatists btw) where Russia have inserted operatives to cause trouble get annexed.
* Ukraine have to demilitarise, give up soveignty to Russia and remain vulnerable to aggression from Russia.

"Russia will give up because the aims of its Special Operation have been achieved", yeah no **** Sherlock.

So Ukraine get f'ked in the ass, Russia get everything they wanted and no repercussions for murdering thousands of Ukrainians and get to reset to insert "Separatists" into the next two provinces along to begin the salami slicing process again and we repeat the same thing in 5-10 years time?

Let me guess, these UN Peacekeepers, will they be Chinese by any chance?

How about Russia goes and ****s itself and we sanction them into third world country status?
 
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Wtf, like anyone didn't know what Russians main demands were going to be. They literally haven't changed since the first set of negotiations.

* Crimea officially recognised as Russian territory.
* The Eastern Provinces (which are NOT held by Separatists btw) where Russia have inserted operatives to cause trouble get annexed.
* Ukraine have to demilitarise, give up soveignty to Russia and remain vulnerable to aggression from Russia.

"Russia will give up because the aims of its Special Operation have been achieved", yeah no **** Sherlock.

So Ukraine get f'ked in the ass, Russia get everything they wanted and no repercussions for murdering thousands of Ukrainians and get to reset to insert "Separatists" into the next two provinces along to begin the salami slicing process again and we repeat the same thing in 5-10 years time?

Let me guess, these UN Peacekeepers, will they be Chinese by any chance?

How about Russia goes and ****s itself and we sanction them into third world country status?

WTF to you mate and was you one of the joc lot that was belating that "comprimises would need to be made" as stated by me were "appeasement"???

You don't have to contribute to the thread mate. Or more likely the case you wish you had said it first and not slag of posters like me and two others here.


Your posting to me apepars to want the killings to go on and others get invloved, what is your soloution. Yes, you don't have a realsitic one.
 
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WTF to you mate and was you one of the joc lot that was belating that "comprimises would need to be made" as stated by me were "appeasement"???

You don't have to contribute to the thread mate. Or more likely the case you wish you had said it first and not slag of posters like me and two others here.


Your posting to me apepars to want the killings to go on and others get invloved, what is your soloution. Yes, you don't have a realsitic one.

I have no idea what "Joc lot" you're referring to.

My solution is not to give into bullies, that's what my solution is. I'll contribute to threads where I see your Russian sympathising and support and I don't care about whether you and two others here feel insulted.
 
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What do you contribute, other than copy and paste "information" from links that are in many case old news by the time you have found them.

Look friend - I don't know why you are trashing my threads, attacking me and posting lies about me here. Where is the cut and paste here and where from?

On other threads, as you have asked, some trolls ask for links re news items so me and others post our thoughts and the link and with some quotes. Unlike others I don't think I've just posted quotes and links.

I' not sure if you feel injured because I've shown up a pal of yours but what you are doing here is not nice. Go on and attack someone else and there are plenty that do as you now posted but not me.

Thank you
 
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My solution is not to give into bullies, that's what my solution is. I'll contribute to threads where I see your Russian sympathising and support and I don't care about whether you and two others here feel insulted.

"job lot" should have read "that lot"

you misunderstood me - nothing wrong in "contributing" I'm not precious etc like some - there are always two sides to a story.

What I clearly asked you is - What is your solution if not as I am citing??

thanks
 
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"Russia said on Wednesday that some parts of a possible peace deal with Ukraine were close to being agreed after Kyiv agreed to discuss neutrality, raising hopes of an end to the biggest war in Europe since World War Two."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-neutrality-Ukraine-seriously-discussed.html

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Media getting hot on this story now.
Let us all hope it really happens

Must dash
 
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"job lot" should have read "that lot"

you misunderstood me - nothing wrong in "contributing" I'm not precious etc like some - there are always two sides to a story.

What I clearly asked you is - What is your solution if not as I am citing??

thanks

Which I answered, continue fighting, do not give up on any further recognised territory from Ukraine, no conditions on the sovereignty and decision making ability of Ukrainians and continue to sanction them until their economy is utterly destroyed and they are a Pariah State.

When Russia exits then an International group of UN Peacekeepers should be placed in the country.

My concession to Russia would be Crimea.
 

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As stated by me

Yes, you keep talking about it. Just remember, we have access to news sites too!

attacking me and posting lies about me here

Nobody is doing that, its just you do post a lot of political threads on this forum, and it is getting, for some, a bit boring. Not an attack on you, but there is only so much war news anybody can handle - we're getting it 24/7 at the moment.
 
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Which I answered, continue fighting, do not give up on any further recognised territory from Ukraine, no conditions on the sovereignty and decision making ability of Ukrainians and continue to sanction them until their economy is utterly destroyed and they are a Pariah State.

When Russia exits then an International group of UN Peacekeepers should be placed in the country.

My concession to Russia would be Crimea.

Thank you but IMO just the Crimea will not work as a lot of blood has been spilt over Donbas and ongoing more than 8 years and areas vastly pro Russian and very bad feelings. Ideally, Ukraine gets everything back but its not going to happen.

Must dash, thank you.
 
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aided by my knowledge and skills about people's behaviours in times of crisis.

Behavioral psychology

In times of crisis the behaviour of people not directly involved can be adversely affected. One "symptom" of this affection is the way the person communicates with other people.
 
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