ULEZ

[Deluks]

Except it didn't. It looked at air quality across a variety of locations. It analysed the pollutants. It tracked the sources. It went for the lowest hanging fruit first. Now we're in the happy position where we can start looking at other sources of poor air quality - which itself, is pretty good evidence that the system is working! (Or are you one of those who thinks gas hobs and brake dust were the problem all along and that road vehicles were never really a problem)? If so, why has it improved after targeting road vehicles?

People don't spend every hour of every day living and working in one location next to a busy traffic junction. They move around, they travel, they commute, during which time they are exposed to many other sources of pm2.5, so they are not magically breathing in cleaner air all the time, they are still exposed to it, there's no escaping pollution when you cram 10 million people into an area the size of London.

People can exercise choice over what they decide to eat (or smoke). They can't do that when it come to the air they breathe...

They can exercise choice over where they decide to live.

"Less than a year's notice"?! I'm curious... How long do you think the average person needs to make up their mind on how to vote?!

He did it without a mandate, and without giving individuals and businesses enough time to adjust to the change.
Bottom line, it cost people money. In some cases a lot of money, plus time and stress.

I'm not against the idea in principle, but it should've been done incrementally, over a period of time, instead of being forced through against people's will.

 

[Avocet]

People don't spend every hour of every day living and working in one location next to a busy traffic junction. They move around, they travel, they commute, during which time they are exposed to many other sources of pm2.5, so they are not magically breathing in cleaner air all the time, they are still exposed to it, there's no escaping pollution when you cram 10 million people into an area the size of London.

Strangely, the pollution move around too... And it's simply not true to say there's no escaping it. That's what some folk said about the infamous London smogs before the Clean Air Act was passed. Plenty of cities over the years, have improved their air quality and there's absolutely no reason why London can't.

They can exercise choice over where they decide to live.

All 10 million of them? Just so that you can drive some dirty old car?

Don't be silly...

He did it without a mandate, and without giving individuals and businesses enough time to adjust to the change.
Bottom line, it cost people money. In some cases a lot of money, plus time and stress.

I'm not against the idea in principle, but it should've been done incrementally, over a period of time, instead of being forced through against people's will.

Yet he's been re-elected twice! He must be doing something right!

 

[Mottie]

Yet he's been re-elected twice! He must be doing something right!

Yeah, he's pandering to the Muslim vote.

 

[Avocet]

Yeah, he's pandering to the Muslim vote.

Really? About 15% of the population of greater London? Are Muslims the only ones who vote in mayoral elections?!

 

[Mottie]

Really? About 15% of the population of greater London? Are Muslims the only ones who vote in mayoral elections?!

Yeah, several times over.

 

[Avocet]

Yeah, several times over.

...okay...

I guess we need some "patriots" to storm the capital and stop them "stealing our democracy"...?

 

[ReganAndCarter]

ULEZ expansion was essential they said, people are getting ill and dying, and it's all caused by older cars.

Then, after ULEZ kicks in, stories like this start to come out.

Gas hob can raise indoor air pollution higher than busy UK road, study finds

Research by Which? compared levels nitrogen dioxide and fine particulate matter in homes and street in London

www.theguardian.com

Brake pad dust can be more toxic than exhaust emissions, study says

Research shows move to electric vehicles may not be enough to enable pollution from cars to be eradicated

www.theguardian.com

ULEZ was just a moneymaking scheme, by a scheming untrustworthy mayor.

Don't forget the Underground. That's quite polluted because of the continuous heavy braking coming into stations.

Tube dust: Union demands tests into 'toxic' particles

Particles containing metals are causing concern among drivers and commuters, a union says.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Avocet]

Don't forget the Underground. That's quite polluted because of the continuous heavy braking coming into stations.

Tube dust: Union demands tests into 'toxic' particles

Particles containing metals are causing concern among drivers and commuters, a union says.

www.bbc.co.uk

Yes, it's absolutely filthy. But not trying to do anything about traffic pollution because the air quality in the underground is poor, is a bit like not trying to do anything about knife crime because some people have guns.

 

[johnny2007]

Don't forget the Underground. That's quite polluted because of the continuous heavy braking coming into stations.

Tube dust: Union demands tests into 'toxic' particles

Particles containing metals are causing concern among drivers and commuters, a union says.

www.bbc.co.uk

For the mayor and transport for London every journey matters...
Unless you travel by tube: then it would be like being back to the middle ages...