Underground oil pipe connections

[Hib]

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[kevplumb]

the reason is manipulative type B joints cant pull apart with ground movment

type A can

change it tex

 

[Terrywookfit]

You will also need an inspection chamber around the joint so it can be checked periodically.

 

[Hib]

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[Hib]

I suppose it's only fair to point out that in this instance the relevant 'real world conditions' are that i'm a lazy ba****d.

I'm (half) joking

 

[Hib]

C'mon peer pressure victims,

I'm more interested in straight talking than faux pas; the joints in the line are about 1.5m apart, how many of you would honestly put inspection chambers around them? Not kevplumb for one.

I appreciate your opinions

Tex

 

[Terrywookfit]

Say no to trolls

 

[Hib]

So no-one apart from Terry (whose pride may have been hurt ) has bothered to respond. To me that means there are a lot of people here who would agree with me and in many circumstances wouldn't bother with the inspection chambers, but at the same time would rather not say lest they be righteously criticised.

If everyone is in agreement with Terry i say no other reason why they wouldn't just say so.

No-one has yet referred me to the regs where it says such measures are necessary (not that it would necessarily be the end of the argument even if it did) - i have a recent text book on the subject which likewise makes no mention (at least not that is immediately obvious - if it does mention it it's not in the type B compression fittings part).

While i value the fantastic resource that this forum is, i definitely agree with you Terry, i have absolutely no doubt that there are not a few trolls on here - some with many posts to their name - and that's why i don't mind asking for second opinions.

I recognise that more exceptions (with regard to the ideal) can be made in the bricklaying, plastering and joinery trades than than plumbing and electrical, and within plumbing more exceptions can be made for waste than gas for example.
My query is reasonable, and asking for 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th opinions on just about any subject is standard practice - anyone care to dispute that? Or am i under the false impression that the folks on here are just human?

So which of the 4 are you Terry? Or is it the 5th?

 

[Terrywookfit]

I have no pride.
If I had feelings I may have been offended,but that is not the case.

What are you referring to with your question?

 

[Hib]

i'm disappointed that others have not commented and my suspicion as to why is correct, i believe.

The points i've made have not been addressed. Therefore i won't waste any more of my time - i've got better things to do

If you can't figure it out Terry, then two can play at the game of little ambiguity

Hib

 

[Boilerman2]

Hib you are a FOOL! you have bodged an oil line under ground which if leaks will cause you the BIGGEST HEADACHE OF YOURE LIFE my friend

 

[muggles]

As a rule I would never put compression underground but if I was forced to it would ALWAYS go in an inspection chamber. If the line is damaged the best course of action is to replace the lot, and as you have a digger on site anyway it would be quite easy to excavate a new trench...

 

[Hib]

Hib you are a FOOL! you have bodged an oil line under ground which if leaks will cause you the BIGGEST HEADACHE OF YOURE LIFE my friend

Boilerman2 - i really appreciate your (very belated) feedback. You have little right to call me a fool - i'm here asking for advice, explaining everything as reasonably and politely as i possibly can, and those polite requests get ignored except for responses from someone who has already given me his opinion. So i basically have to use other means just to get a response.

That's precisely what i'm trying to get at - is it a unanimous consensus that it would be a foolish thing to do or not? i don't know, that's why i'm asking; it's a strange kind of fool that takes counsel from many.

All this i have already explained.

And after all that - you STILL haven't answered the question (yeah, i've got a caps lock button on my computer too). I never said i wasn't going to change it - it was my suggestion in the first place, my main query is about the inspection chambers. Would you be so kind as to finish your answer, please????

I don't see why 4,5 or 10 of you couldn't have written a short 'Yes Hib, we all agree with Terry', or even just 'Terry's right' or whatever, which is precisely why i thought it strange that you (plural) didn't. Excuse me if i don't unconditionally accept Terry's word as gospel truth.

As a rule I would never put compression underground but if I was forced to it would ALWAYS go in an inspection chamber. If the line is damaged the best course of action is to replace the lot, and as you have a digger on site anyway it would be quite easy to excavate a new trench...

Cheers muggles - the reasonable, straightforward answer i've been waiting for (and before anyone accuses me of being impatient; you all know very well that there are so many posts on the plumbing forum that a question gets pushed of the page in a matter of hours - if u don't get an answer fast, u ain't gonna get one)

The digger is now gone, not that it would've made any difference anyway because it would have meant tearing up an awful lot of recently laid concrete and tarmac - not a chance.

So that's Terry and muggles for the chamber;
Capslock and kevplumb - unclear;
everyone else - probably would've used superglue but are afraid to say.

I look forward to the deluge of further replies

 

[WDIK]

according to oftec standards, apart from CO poisoning, land oil contamination, the most heinous crimes.
now tanks and pipelines are to be bunded.

 

[casius66]

HIB - It might be that being this time of the year we're all out busily fixing boilers and can't be arsed to log in to forums like this when we get home...
You don't put joints underground without having access to inspect them (water, oil, telecoms, electric...) - no point referring you to the regs unless you have access to the OFTEC books (if you did then look it up yourself).
I would do the fix to get it working and recommend the customer get a friendly builder in to put an inspection chamber around it.