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Doggit said:
Whilst KH can be a bit blunt and rude, in stating that fat people are fat because they eat too much, and exercise too little, she is technically correct.
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She has also
-libelled a food blogger in a tweet which wrongly accused her of vandalising war memorials.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...case-pay-out-131000-lose-appeal-a7658146.html

-called for a “final solution"
http://www.theweek.co.uk/85034/katie-hopkins-to-leave-lbc-over-final-solution-tweet

-termed migrants ‘cockroaches’ in the Sun
http://www.thejournal.ie/hate-speech-europe-report-3009013-Oct2016/

-wrote that a Disneyland-bound British Muslim family had al-Qaeda ties. She was wrong.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...es-she-was-dead-wrong/?utm_term=.02ae05be85ee


- falsely accused a teacher of taking her students to an anti-Trump rally in London.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/i...hopkins-should-move-to-the-us/article/2641891

- ignited a particularly fierce backlash after claiming Adam Johnson is not a paedophile and does not deserve a prison sentence for sexual activity with a 15-year-old schoolgirl.
" Looking to impress her mates by snagging a footballer. Hey presto. From sl*g to wag.” She elaborated in a Mail Online column, saying the victim knew “exactly what she was doing” and questioned whether the age of sexual consent should be defined by one number.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...how-7-other-times-controversial-a7756996.html

-sneered at a Scottish nurse suffering from Ebola after caring for victims
"Glaswegian ebola patient moved to London's Royal Free Hospital. Not so independent when it matters most are we jocksville?"
http://www.dailyedge.ie/katie-hopkins-ebola-comments-1857810-Dec2014/

-After five bodies were discovered on Camber Sands beach, Hopkins conducted a poll on Twitter mocking the possible identities of five men whose bodies were pulled from the sea at Camber Sands beach.

- A year to the day since three-year-old Alan Kurdi’s lifeless body was discovered washed up on a Turkish beach, Hopkins Tweeted a picture of his father alongside the comment “Lectured on caring for migrants by a man who left his wife and child at the bottom of the Med? No thank you Mr Kurdi.”

-Hopkins has been accused of anti-Semitism after tweeted that Ed Miliband might stick his wife’s “head in the oven and gas her”. Miliband’s Jewish parents are well documented as having fled the Nazis in the 1940s. His grandfather died in a German labour camp.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-wife-Ed-Miliband-parents-fled-Holocaust.html
 
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Firstly, no, I don't think wealth should be redistributed, but you obviously do. There are a lot of greedy people earning more than they deserve, and that should be tackled, but why shouldn't those who work hard be entitled to what they earn. But if people don't have any incentive to better themselves, then they wouldn't bother working harder, and they wouldn't earn more, and they wouldn't pay more tax in the process. The top 1% of the wealthiest people pay 27% of the tax take, so wealth is being taken from the rich, and redistributed to the poor - it's just not that obvious, nor in the way some would like.

Mandleson and Blair (you do know who they are) are both multi millionaires, Corbyn, Alistair Campbell and a lot in the Labour government are so well off, that whilst they are socialists, and well off enough to enjoy much nicer lifestyle than most of the people they profess to represent, and well off enough to enjoy more than the odd bottle of champagne.

If everyone were allowed to work a 4 day week, then more people would need to be taken on part time, but the wages bill would rise, and prices would have to rise accordingly - Oh yeah, then people would want a pay rise, and the company would eventually go out of business. Oh dear, now they are on benefits, and getting less than when they worked a 5 day week. Oh wait, lets take the money from the rich and redistribute it. Good idea, then when all the moneys been redistributed, and there's no rich people buying things, and say Harrods goes out of business, they stop buying goods from abroad, so people in China lose their jobs, and the staff who worked in Harrods don't go to the nearby coffee shops, so they shut down, or some of them get laid off, and they can't buy as much from tescos, so Aldis prospers at Tescos expense, and so the system goes into a recession that it never recovers from.

Those who scream for wealth distribution, often what it taken from someones else, but not themselves. Interesting how Lilly Allan and Benedict Cumberbatch harangued everyone for not taking in more refugees, but then decided that they weren't actually able to take any in themselves, but they really really wanted to.

Society should support those in need, but allow those who want to work to better themselves. Social mobility should be encouraged, but the Grammar schools got shut down, and social mobility stopped, and this alone shows that great levelling ideas, often work against those that they are supposed to help.
 
Doggit said:
The top 1% of the wealthiest people pay 27% of the tax take, so wealth is being taken from the rich, and redistributed to the poor -.
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It goes to the government, not to the poor.
Where do you get your ideas from?

Doggit said:
Mandleson and Blair (you do know who they are) are both multi millionaires, Corbyn, Alistair Campbell and a lot in the Labour government are so well off, that whilst they are socialists, and well off enough to enjoy much nicer lifestyle than most of the people they profess to represent, and well off enough to enjoy more than the odd bottle of champagne.
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So in your world, all socialists are poor under-achievers? :rolleyes:

I think I will leave the rest to kankerot to pick holes in.
Not only because it is a rant, based on a fundamental misconceived ideology, but because there is lot of misconceived detail in there.
 
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JohnD said:
She has also
-libelled a food blogger in a tweet which wrongly accused her of vandalising war memorials.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...case-pay-out-131000-lose-appeal-a7658146.html

-called for a “final solution"
http://www.theweek.co.uk/85034/katie-hopkins-to-leave-lbc-over-final-solution-tweet

-termed migrants ‘cockroaches’ in the Sun
http://www.thejournal.ie/hate-speech-europe-report-3009013-Oct2016/

-wrote that a Disneyland-bound British Muslim family had al-Qaeda ties. She was wrong.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...es-she-was-dead-wrong/?utm_term=.02ae05be85ee


- falsely accused a teacher of taking her students to an anti-Trump rally in London.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/i...hopkins-should-move-to-the-us/article/2641891

- ignited a particularly fierce backlash after claiming Adam Johnson is not a paedophile and does not deserve a prison sentence for sexual activity with a 15-year-old schoolgirl.
" Looking to impress her mates by snagging a footballer. Hey presto. From sl*g to wag.” She elaborated in a Mail Online column, saying the victim knew “exactly what she was doing” and questioned whether the age of sexual consent should be defined by one number.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...how-7-other-times-controversial-a7756996.html

-After five bodies were discovered on Camber Sands beach, Hopkins conducted a poll on Twitter mocking the possible identities of five men whose bodies were pulled from the sea at Camber Sands beach.

- A year to the day since three-year-old Alan Kurdi’s lifeless body was discovered washed up on a Turkish beach, Hopkins Tweeted a picture of his father alongside the comment “Lectured on caring for migrants by a man who left his wife and child at the bottom of the Med? No thank you Mr Kurdi.”
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blimey she would fit in well in here then :):):)
 
noseall said:
Probably. Too obscure for me. You'd think a hard core liar, fantasist and opinionated c**t would have made it into the mainstream news. Oh, Bless me, KH did!
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OJ's isnt a hard core liar or fantasist............I just dont like him, I think he is very annoying. Im not the only one:
http://www.alexsarchives.org/2013/07/why-is-owen-jones-so-annoying/

Probably Annoying on a par with KH, although I suppose that is unfair, she is simply deliberately unpleasant to be controversial, which may have created a media demand to begin with, but hasnt done her many favours since as she has been sacked or banned from nearly everywhere.
 
JohnD said:
She has also
-libelled a food blogger in a tweet which wrongly accused her of vandalising war memorials.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...case-pay-out-131000-lose-appeal-a7658146.html

-called for a “final solution"
http://www.theweek.co.uk/85034/katie-hopkins-to-leave-lbc-over-final-solution-tweet

-termed migrants ‘cockroaches’ in the Sun
http://www.thejournal.ie/hate-speech-europe-report-3009013-Oct2016/

-wrote that a Disneyland-bound British Muslim family had al-Qaeda ties. She was wrong.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...es-she-was-dead-wrong/?utm_term=.02ae05be85ee


- falsely accused a teacher of taking her students to an anti-Trump rally in London.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/i...hopkins-should-move-to-the-us/article/2641891

- ignited a particularly fierce backlash after claiming Adam Johnson is not a paedophile and does not deserve a prison sentence for sexual activity with a 15-year-old schoolgirl.
" Looking to impress her mates by snagging a footballer. Hey presto. From sl*g to wag.” She elaborated in a Mail Online column, saying the victim knew “exactly what she was doing” and questioned whether the age of sexual consent should be defined by one number.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...how-7-other-times-controversial-a7756996.html

-sneered at a Scottish nurse suffering from Ebola after caring for victims
"Glaswegian ebola patient moved to London's Royal Free Hospital. Not so independent when it matters most are we jocksville?"
http://www.dailyedge.ie/katie-hopkins-ebola-comments-1857810-Dec2014/

-After five bodies were discovered on Camber Sands beach, Hopkins conducted a poll on Twitter mocking the possible identities of five men whose bodies were pulled from the sea at Camber Sands beach.

- A year to the day since three-year-old Alan Kurdi’s lifeless body was discovered washed up on a Turkish beach, Hopkins Tweeted a picture of his father alongside the comment “Lectured on caring for migrants by a man who left his wife and child at the bottom of the Med? No thank you Mr Kurdi.”

-Hopkins has been accused of anti-Semitism after tweeted that Ed Miliband might stick his wife’s “head in the oven and gas her”. Miliband’s Jewish parents are well documented as having fled the Nazis in the 1940s. His grandfather died in a German labour camp.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-wife-Ed-Miliband-parents-fled-Holocaust.html
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Maybe, but Owen Jones is still annoying :)
 
wannabeDIY said:
It goes to the government, not to the poor.
Where do you get your ideas from?
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So taxes from rich people go to the government........

Poor people according to Wannabe get their money ftom...........I dont know fairies?
 
I know, it's amazing what some people don't seem to realise. The poor don't pay much tax, and the rich pay a bloody lot of it, and if we start redistributing wealth, then the not so poor any longer people, are then going to have to start paying tax again. And I can guarantee that they'll still scream that the wealthy should still give them more of their wealth.
 
Perhaps Doggitt aspires one day to become a Christian (no sign of it yet) and thinks that people (other than himself?) should follow Jesus' teachings.

See Matthew 19:21 and Luke 18:22

I can't help thinking he would do better to follow such teachings himself, rather than whining at other people not doing it.

See Matthew 7:3-4, Luke 6:41-42
 
There was an interesting documentary on T.V (last year I think ?) were bye a number of house holds that were long term benefit recipients

un-employed etc ( poor ?) were given the maximum amount they could claim off of benefits in one lump sum (cash) £34,000 afai recall

they now had an opportunity to help them selves ???

They all did very well tbh , went self employed , business ventures etc

interesting programme imho
 
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