Use of Powerline units instead of proper wifi or cables.

[ericmark]

There have been calls from many to ban these devices, however it seems at last there is a move in right direction This Report by telegraph says

Thousands of homeowners could face prosecution if their broadband persistently interferes with radio signals, under Ofcom proposals published after lobbying by intelligence agency GCHQ.

The Government agency has become increasingly concerned in recent years about "power line" networking equipment. This allows people to use the mains wiring in their homes to transmit data, as an alternative to a Wi-Fi network, and has been distributed to BT and TalkTalk customers to connect their television set-top boxes to broadband.

How they will work out who has the devices, and what happens when people try to return these devices costing between £20 and £100 back to where bought is an interesting question, in the UK we are free to buy boilers were not permitted to fit, and two way radios were not permitted to use, so I will guess you can't return the devices?

 

[bernardgreen]

The article was published under this by-line

By Christopher Williams, Technology, Media and Telecoms Editor 5:00AM GMT 06 Jan 2015

That said the problem of interference radiated from PowerLine and similar equipment has yet to be fully resolved. It is an ongoing process.

How they will work out who has the devices

Hand held detectors exist for this purpose and they are very good at identifying the source of the interference.

 

[bernardgreen]

This applies to area wide PLT ( Power Line (data) Transport ) to bring Broadband to houses and businesses via the local electrical supply network but the basic principles and concerns of interference are the same as domestic room to room PLT

http://www.eurocontrol.int/sites/de...nts/communications/brief-plt-interference.pdf

( the site downloads the pdf file you your machine )

 

[winston1]

Goods sold have to be fit for purpose. If they cause interference they are not fit for purpose so can be returned under your statuary rights.

 

[bernardgreen]

Goods sold have to be fit for purpose. If they cause interference

the manufacturer's escape clause is that the units themselves do not radiate a significant amount of radiation, it is the mains wiring which radiates the interference.

 

[winston1]

the manufacturer's escape clause is that the units themselves do not radiate a significant amount of radiation, it is the mains wiring which radiates the interference.

Maybe so. A good lawyer should be able to sort that out. When they are used as intended interference is caused.
What I want to know is why haven't they been banned?

 

[mattylad]

Waste of time thinking that broadband will be curtailed just because it causes a little interference.

Why haven't they been banned Winston? Probably because no one in power gives a toss and those that do, do not have any power.

 

[winston1]

Waste of time thinking that broadband will be curtailed just because it causes a little interference.

No one wants to ban broadband. It's the PLT method of distribution that needs to be banned.

Why haven't they been banned Winston? Probably because no one in power gives a toss and those that do, do not have any power.

So how have I rattled your cage then?

 

[JP_]

By the time this is all resolved, all TV and radio will probably be Internet only anyway.

Free entertainment will be gone forever.

 

[bernardgreen]

By the time this is all resolved, all TV and radio will probably be Internet only anyway

But marine and aviation communications will still be by radio and prone to interference from spurious radio frequency sources.

 

[winston1]

By the time this is all resolved, all TV and radio will probably be internet only anyway.

Free entertainment will be gone forever.

You can't get internet in a moving car, except by using......wait for it.....radio.

 

[mattylad]

So how have I rattled your cage then?

You have not, I didn't say you had.
I was replying to you, saying that they have not been banned because no one that can do so really gives a t.oss, in fact they probably have them all over their mansions.

 

[winston1]

You have not, I didn't say you had.
I was replying to you, saying that they have not been banned because no one that can do so really gives a toss, in fact they probably have them all over their mansions.

Government corruption then?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

your statuary rights.

I don't own any statues.

Do I have the right to any?

 

[JP_]

But marine and aviation communications will still be by radio and prone to interference from spurious radio frequency sources.

I don't really know much about how these powerline things work, but I'd be surprised if a bit of interferance on domestic cables is going to upset the international shipping lanes or trans-atlantic flights. That seems a bit far fetched.

Just dome some Googling ... seems people re talking about powerlines, as in, electric supplies, when talking about radio etc? Surely that is the issue regarding radio frequencies affecting police radio etc? Not Powerline adaptors?
http://www.arrl.org/power-line-noise

Struggling to find any cases of people being put out by a neighbours internet, but maybe I am searching for the wrong thing?

Can we have some real life examples, rather than just theoretical problems?