Vote leave breaking the law

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Well there was me thinking that eeyore only twists, dodges and squirms when in discussion primarily with me.
I was wrong! I admit it. He is like this with anyone who has a different opinion to him.

I cant help it if your stupidity prevents you from following 1 post to another......
 
I cant help it if your stupidity prevents you from following 1 post to another......

Eeyore's song: Let's twist again. With apologies to Chubby Checker.

Come on everybody!
Clap your hands!
All you looking good!

Eeyore goona sing his song
It won't take long!
He's gonna do the twist
And it goes like this:

Eeyore, he'll twist again,
Like he did last comment!
Yeaaah, he'll twist again,
Like he did last post!

Do you remember when,
eeyore was really lyin',
Yeaaaah, he'll twist again,
Twistin' eeyore's here!

Heeee, and round and round and up and down he goes again!
Oh, eeyore, blame us for twisting sooooo,
And then:

Twist again,
Like he did last comment,
Come on, he'll twist again,
Like he did last post!
TWIST! YO!

Who's that, flyin up there?
Is it a bird? Noooooo
Is it a plane? Noooooooo
Is it the twister? Eeyore!

Twist again, like he did last comment,
Come on, he'll twist again,
Like he did last post!!!!

Do you remember when,
eeyore was really lyin',
Come on, he'll twist again,
Twistin' time is here

Heeee, and round and round and up and down he goes again!
Oh, eeyore, blame us for twisting sooooo!
And then:
Eeyore will twist again, like he did last comment,
Eeyore will twist again, like he did last post!

Come on, he'll twist again,
Twistin' eeyore is heeeere!
 
First look at the facts and the case being built and the laws broken

If laws are broken then those guilty should be charged.

However, did the undeclared funding actually make any material difference? I dont think so, its a case of looking for a smoking gun that does not exist.

Did it make an unfair playing field? The Remain side had the advantage of having the government machine – and £9.3 million of public funds on clear campaign literature:

The government produced a 16-page leaflet, “Why the Government believes that voting to remain in the European Union is the best decision for the UK”, which was delivered to 27 million households in April (and in Scotland and Wales in May) 2016 at a cost to the public purse of £9.3 million, which did not count towards referendum expenditure
 
If laws are broken then those guilty should be charged.

However, did the undeclared funding actually make any material difference? I dont think so, its a case of looking for a smoking gun that does not exist.

Did it make an unfair playing field? The Remain side had the advantage of having the government machine – and £9.3 million of public funds on clear campaign literature:

The government produced a 16-page leaflet, “Why the Government believes that voting to remain in the European Union is the best decision for the UK”, which was delivered to 27 million households in April (and in Scotland and Wales in May) 2016 at a cost to the public purse of £9.3 million, which did not count towards referendum expenditure


Then they flew in their trump (not Donald) card. President Barack Obama
 
If laws are broken then those guilty should be charged.

However, did the undeclared funding actually make any material difference? I dont think so, its a case of looking for a smoking gun that does not exist.

Did it make an unfair playing field? The Remain side had the advantage of having the government machine – and £9.3 million of public funds on clear campaign literature:

The government produced a 16-page leaflet, “Why the Government believes that voting to remain in the European Union is the best decision for the UK”, which was delivered to 27 million households in April (and in Scotland and Wales in May) 2016 at a cost to the public purse of £9.3 million, which did not count towards referendum expenditure

Charged (and if found guilty) then by default an election offence has occurred.
But what about a result based on election fraud?

You also say that you believe that 'undeclared funding' didn't make a difference (despite some claims otherwise), and yet you go on to mention a declared/legal UK government campaign leaflet as if that was a similar attempt to influence.

You can't have it both ways.
Either a campaign has influence or it doesn't, regardless of the point of view.
The issue is legality/illegality!
 
But what about a result based on election fraud?

It wasnt an election.

The legal answer is clear – unlike in parliamentary or local elections, overspending does not invalidate a referendum result under any circumstances. The courts cannot order a rerun. If the claims were to be proved Vote Leave could be fined – though since the organisation is not engaged in anything post-Referendum this does not have much consequence – and there could be personal legal consequences for those involved, but nothing else.

UK government campaign leaflet as if that was a similar attempt to influence.
You can't have it both ways

Its not a case of having it both ways.

What it shows is that the UK spent £9m odd on leafleting for remain but didnt win. On that basis, the additional undiclared amount leave may have spent is in no way the smoking gun some articles have implied. Or in other words, made no material difference.

It certainly isnt in the same league as buying votes.
 
But there are electoral rules.

If an MP breaks said rules, they can be chucked out.

So if those with vested interests in the result broke electoral rules, what should happen?
And how will the result be perceived?

broke electoral rules how ??? stuffed ballot boxes with false voting forms ? impersonation ? ect ect ??

Or are we saying some one told a porkie pie ? produced false figures ? gave out in-correct or biased information to the voters ?
 
Eeyore's song: Let's twist again. With apologies to Chubby Checker.

Come on everybody!
Clap your hands!
All you looking good!

Eeyore goona sing his song
It won't take long!
He's gonna do the twist
And it goes like this:

Eeyore, he'll twist again,
Like he did last comment!
Yeaaah, he'll twist again,
Like he did last post!

Do you remember when,
eeyore was really lyin',
Yeaaaah, he'll twist again,
Twistin' eeyore's here!

Heeee, and round and round and up and down he goes again!
Oh, eeyore, blame us for twisting sooooo,
And then:

Twist again,
Like he did last comment,
Come on, he'll twist again,
Like he did last post!
TWIST! YO!

Who's that, flyin up there?
Is it a bird? Noooooo
Is it a plane? Noooooooo
Is it the twister? Eeyore!

Twist again, like he did last comment,
Come on, he'll twist again,
Like he did last post!!!!

Do you remember when,
eeyore was really lyin',
Come on, he'll twist again,
Twistin' time is here

Heeee, and round and round and up and down he goes again!
Oh, eeyore, blame us for twisting sooooo!
And then:
Eeyore will twist again, like he did last comment,
Eeyore will twist again, like he did last post!

Come on, he'll twist again,
Twistin' eeyore is heeeere!


way r bee the poet :LOL:

what he knows on the subject could be written in the margins of a washing machine users manual with a 6" paint brush :LOL:
 
broke electoral rules how ??? stuffed ballot boxes with false voting forms ? impersonation ? ect ect ??

Or are we saying some one told a porkie pie ? produced false figures ? gave out in-correct or biased information to the voters ?
Someone it appears needs to come up to date as regards breaking electoral rules/fraud...

Mind you, no wonder high tech companies (on behalf of their paymasters) find it so easy - given the ignorance you exhibit ;)
 
It wasnt an election.
But still run under electoral legislation.

And as for "though since the organisation is not engaged in anything post-Referendum", I refer you again to the funding of the ERG...

The links are there - unless you are a die hard ostrich :whistle:
 
Now I don't want anyone to consider me homophobic, but I suspect this started off because some snotty little twit had a grudge against his boyfriend, and decided to shyte stir.
 
But still run under electoral legislation
Did I say it was not?

And as for "though since the organisation is not engaged in anything post-Referendum", I refer you again to the funding of the ERG...
Is that organisation called vote leave?

You are most welcome to include insults in your reply......it defines you as a person and highlights the weakness of your argument :whistle:

As I said, did any additional, undisclosed funds make any material difference to the outcome? It may have done if the funds were used to bribe voters as you suggested......
 
Someone it appears needs to come up to date as regards breaking electoral rules/fraud...

Mind you, no wonder high tech companies (on behalf of their paymasters) find it so easy - given the ignorance you exhibit ;)

only person exhibiting ignorance is you tbh ;) do not make the mistake that all those taking part in an election are as easily led & as ignorant as u .;):LOL:

Fact is if some fool bungs his entire life on social media and some company targets them and feeds them some BS which they believe

Well ?????? :LOL:

electoral fraud u say Hmmm what like go's on in the EU ;)?????????????

Ignorant u say , well u are entitled to your op :LOL: Opinions are a bit like **** holes , we have all got one :LOL:
 
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