wallpapering

[pickles]

I am just about to redecorate by papering over some old paper. This is not a vinyl so I am happy the new paper will stick but the new paper is much lighter than the old so I am worried the old colour will bleed through

Can anyone tell me what to do. I'm planning to seal the old paper with white matt emulsion but will the new paper stick to it.

I really do not want the graft of stripping it back to the plaster, It was cross lined and than papered and the surface is fine

 

[Zampa]

Your problem is not the new paper sticking to the old stuff...its what the new paper may do to the old stuff, it could cause it to bubble, and the bubble may not go back..you could have problems with the old seams lifting..cutting into corners will be harder..alsorts can go wrong..he only way tou'l know if you have got away with it is when its dry..and that culd be too late, you will have wasted a lot of time and money

My advice...strip.

 

[pickles]

Zampa do you really think I would have a problem if I sealed the old paper with sealant or primer and then papered over it.

I just can't bear the thought of stripping it all off. It was laboriously cross lined and then papered by me. I did it really slowly and thoroughly ten years ago and it's stuck down like a rock. Surely if I seal it the new paper won't be able to make the old paper lift.

 

[Zampa]

Even worse im affraid..the paste may take ages to dry because it cant soak in to the selaer..

I was asked to do a job a couple of weeks ago the bloke wanted me to paper over paper...I told him I wouldnt do it unless t was stripped..I wsnt touting for extra work..i didnt have te time anyway.

It really is risky...any decorator will tell you the same.

 

[Third_Eye]

"Zampa" has given u best advice "pickles" however based on your anxiety of stripping, the best thing to do in your desired scenario is to mix some PVA with your matt emulsion at a mix of emulsion thinned down by 20% water, then add 20% PVA into the emulsion that has been thinned by 20% water, and coat your walls with this recomended mix. Also, when walls are drying when the advised mixed emulsion rates then look out for any blisters and cut them out then fill BEFORE HANGING NEW WALLCOVERING. Also, do NOT use One Coat Matt Emulsion OR Dulux Rich Matt Emulsion. In other words use Matt Emulsion.

 

[Growler]

Try this -
On a small area - window or sides of chymney, wet an area in with hot soapy water, go make a cup of tea, wet it in again, make sure it's fully soaked, give it half an hour, try wetting it with a garden spray if the brush is too laborious.
Now - get a scraper under a join and see if it will pull off the lining paper in sheets, leaving your lining intact.

It may not - but - it's worth a try.

 

[pickles]

Ok thanks for the input all of you . I will test Growlers method first, then if that doesn't work i'll try the third_eye method and if that's no good i'll stop being a lazy B and get the steamer out

 

[Third_Eye]

If three options dont work then get in some explosives, hehe

 

[pickles]

If three options dont work then get in some explosives, hehe

No i'll just shoot myself and the kids can have the problem

 

[pickles]

Right, Iv'e been a good boy and stripped it back to the plaster. On or two small spots seem chalky, (original Edwardian plaster) and the old paper didn't stick despite the wall being thouroughly sized before hanging last time round

Any tips on how to deal with this so that I don't get a repeat performance

 

[Zampa]

Would the chalky spots be at the top of the wall by any chance pickles?..you mention the house is old..could it have had a picture rail and a frieze?..if so its distemper.

Actually its probably distemper wherever it is...you'l need to wash it off properly then give it a slightly thinned coat of alkali resisting primer to seal the wall and stop the alkali on the surface from possibly spoiling whatever your going over the top with

 

[pickles]

Would the chalky spots be at the top of the wall by any chance pickles?..you mention the house is old..could it have had a picture rail and a frieze?..if so its distemper.

Actually its probably distemper wherever it is...you'l need to wash it off properly then give it a slightly thinned coat of alkali resisting primer to seal the wall and stop the alkali on the surface from possibly spoiling whatever your going over the top with

No Zampa they are random. Its definitely not distemper which is smooth and comes off on your hand, it's more like the plaster has become slightly coarse and gritty and lost it's smooth surface.

Chaky wasn't a very good description of the problem

 

[Zampa]

Ah right...OK..id still go for the thinned alkali resisting primer..it is very useful with those situations...and if its cement of some description then it will still prevent the alkali salts from damaging the finished surface