Washer/dryer tripping consumer unit

[martygturner]

Wow a lot of soul searching just to tell the bloke get a new washing machine as your one is fecked.

 

[BS3036]

Wow a lot of soul searching just to tell the bloke get a new washing machine as your one is fecked.

What?

 

[martygturner]

What?

Err his washing machine is tripping and what he gets is a two page discourse of everything other than get you machine repaired or replaced,,,, now I know this forum is called DIY NOT but really....there is no need to take it literally is there.

 

[ericmark]

To my mind, even getting a cheap one, that's a lot of money if the fault is easy fixed. But also have called out a repair man, and paid £100 to get something fixed, so there is a point where one says its 5-10-15 years old, time for a new one anyway. I looked for any instructions on how to change the interference filter, could only find a USA version and clearly not a British Hoover. Tried a second time, and found this

likely not the Hoover in question, but does give one an idea of what the job entails.

But as it stands, you have not idea what is wrong, it could be an element or a filter, but to buy and fit without knowing that's the faulty bit, seems the wrong way forward.

 

[Dereekoo]

View attachment 426275To my mind, even getting a cheap one, that's a lot of money if the fault is easy fixed. But also have called out a repair man, and paid £100 to get something fixed, so there is a point where one says its 5-10-15 years old, time for a new one anyway. I looked for any instructions on how to change the View attachment 426276interference filter, could only find a USA version and clearly not a British Hoover. Tried a second time, and found this

likely not the Hoover in question, but does give one an idea of what the job entails.

But as it stands, you have not idea what is wrong, it could be an element or a filter, but to buy and fit without knowing that's the faulty bit, seems the wrong way forward.

Hence you by pass the suppressor with the necessary cable connectors (if you are capable) and see if it works before buying a new one ( you may get some interference on your tele/radio but so what)

 

[GarethW]

Try rewiring the plug, there seams to be a lot of heat damage on the neutral (the blue wire), also there are strands sticking out for the live wire (the brown wire). a loose terminal could maybe be to blame. That is what I would try first.

 

[ericmark]

Hence you by pass the suppressor

I am sure you can, and also I can, but the question is can @Keitai ? Hence looking for the YouTube video so he has some idea what is involved. And it does not really tell me if it needs to be fitted for the machine to run, if doing it myself I would quickly work out if any bridging needed to test, but as it stands, it would cost £20 to find out.

I would use my insulation tester first, so I would be 100% sure it was washing machine at fault, and which part in the washing machine, but as to writing an instruction set on how to test.

Well at school we were told to write out instructions for a computer to make tea, and no one did it without missing some vital step. OK that was days before the one cup boiler etc, well really before computers, we only saw them on films.

But I have done it all too often, trying to tell some one at work how to do some simple task, and they have not done as expected.

 

[ericmark]

Try rewiring the plug

Good point, it does not look very good.

 

[BS3036]

Try rewiring the plug...

Actually fitting a new one instead might be more sensible. I have know mains connectors to be damaged by a flash from a short circuit caused by a wire strand, such that an all but invisible conductive film of copper on the plastic continued to offer a short circuit. Together with the fact that the blue and red wires do look somewhat fried and have surplus of loose strands might suggest that a brief short occurred at some time, and that the plug surface itself might now be causing a neutral to earth short.

If you haven't seen that before, I knew someone who destroyed two kettles and three kettle leads (including a neighbour's) by simply substituting one at a time before realising why the bangs were happening.

 

[SUNRAY]

The suppressor is now my first inspection when an appliance is causing tripping. One job a year or so ago diagnosed as 'false tripping' and sent armed with an upgrade RCD. It instantly tripped when powered but the circuit (1/2 of the CU) was good for insulation test, I started by disconnecting the DW and problem cleared. It was under warranty so left it to the customer, it proved to be the suppressor.

 

[Keitai]

Put a new plug on and plugged in didn't trip. Will try it tomorrow with machine on. The brown wire has massive nik in rubber and blue has black burning on it. Dunno what's been going on

 

[Spherehopper]

What else is plugged into that double adaptor? Do you run that at the same time the washer dryer is on?