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What a joke

France don't, in a genuine concerted manner, want to stop the migrants leaving their shores for the UK.

I am not defending France when I type the following, would we be any different if it were the other way round? I can't imagine the likes of Reform would be saying 'we really need to do more to stop these migrants leaving our shores.' And to what extent would we, the public, want it stopped?

The whole thing is a mess and I genuinely don't see how it can be resolved without introducing measures that some would, possibly quite rightly, find immoral and unpalatable. I also suspect if Reform form the next government and try to make significant changes to the way we deal with this, they'll be blocked left right and centre.

Also, picture this scenario. Let's say Reform get in and manage to get a law passed whereby the boats are pushed back. Who's going to do the pushing back? Would they be happy doing it? Would there be resistance from them? How would the British public actually feel if we started pushing boats back resulting in multiple deaths?

So, all round, it's a mess. And as to what the realistic solutions are, feck knows.

I do still maintain however we should have thrown a few billion at this in an attempt to make the UK less attractive. Tons more shore patrols, basic accommodation erected on disused airfields etc. Much more investment in the identification and processing element. e.g. if migrants refuse to give their real identity and country of origin, they remain in the basic accommodation until they do.

We need to accept something. If we don't introduce tougher measures in some shape or form, this isn't stopping any time soon. Actually, it will get worse due to ongoing global conflicts, climate refugees etc. It also requires a genuine, global joined up strategic approach to the whole issue of migration. Again, good luck with that.
 
The French definitely don't like the camps, crime and having all sorts of trash crossing their country to get to ours.

It's actually in their interests to stop it and for us to return lots of them. A skilled negotiator who wants to stop it (i.e. none of our current government) could persuade them. But they'd need pushing into it, asking nicely definitely won't work with them.

Once the pot of gold at the other side of France (us) is removed, then the riff-raff will stop entering France to get here.

Sure they would need to put up with a short term issue of lots of people being stuck in France who don't want to be there. But many would return to their actual homes, some would dissipate into the rest of the EU and the future lot wouldn't set off in the first place.
 
By the way, why's it OK for these people to live in camps in France but they need luxury hotels once they get here?

Why hasn't a human rights lawyer demanded that France provide them with a room, food, pocket money and a free new phone?
 
Yes they might’ve had a stand at the boat show

But no they did not say what you claim.
What vessel did they have on their stand? since you appear to be claiming to have been there while I was talking to them.
 
the Uk would have to stop boats in the channel -risking drownings

if the UK took boats back to a French dock -all they would have to do is stop them disembarking -at no danger to the migrants


dats why
nonsense - they are protected by law. They have a right to disembark rescued seafarers.
 
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