Where can cooker go??

[GNServices]

Hello,

Half way through planning kitchen refurb and stumbled across a potential problem. There is only 1 possible place for the cooker to go (in one place it will be directly below stair case, other it will be below CU, other will be right next to boiler, other it will be right next to sink)

Please see below the planned place for cooker (Please excuse my drawing, I have no pics).

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• GNServices
• 25 Feb 2014
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As you can see, there is a width of 900mm to play with, and a depth of 500mm.
The cooker is unit height high (as standard), approx 560mm wide and 590mm deep.
Already you can see the cooker is going to overhang by the depth by 90mm, nothing we can do about that.
And only got 340mm room to play with on the width.

What can I possibly do?
Where can the isolator go?

Any help would be great.
Thanks

 

[sparkwright]

Presumably the isolator could go somewhere within the 340 mm you have spare.

BUT having a cooker so close to the door looks a bit dangerous if anyone enters the room (then again many kitchens are so small the cooker would normally be quite close to a door).

 

[sparkwright]

How much of a problem is it having the cooker next to the boiler?

Can the sink be moved over a bit?

Would a separate oven and a separate hob solve the problem?

 

[GNServices]

If the cooker went next to the boiler, the edge of the cooker would have to be directly under the boiler, if it wasnt, then the cooker would be below the consumer unit.

I cant move the sink over, as its already flush with another wall (the corner for the boiler). It is the hob of the cooker that I believe is the biggest problem here, but where a hob can go, a cooker can go usually?

The point you make in regards to the door brings me to the conclusion that getting rid of the door may solve all problems. The door leads into the dining room. If I got rid of that door, people can come into the kitchen from the hall, and to get into the dining room, go through the living room. Its not the ideal situation but what is with such an alkward kitchen! Getting rid of the door will gain me some extra worktop space aswel

 

[diyer56]

Would that mean carrying prepared food through the sitting room? Perhaps you could have a serving hatch?

 

[bernardgreen]

Are you still planning or is the boiler and / or CU already fitted.

Is moving one of them totally out of the question ?

 

[GNServices]

That means carrying food through yeah,

Boiler and cu are fitted and I would prefer to just put up with no door to dining room than moving one of them

 

[bernardgreen]

How about a serving hatch where the door is. Fit something under the work surface there, ( fridge, freezer even washing machine ) and put the cooker where that item was.

 

[ericmark]

Much depends on design of the cooker.

If we look at super dangerous gas cookers the room allowed around them is very important and of course don't want drafts.

Look at the other extreme with an induction hob then there are that many safeties built in and so little heat escapes it is a completely different situation.

I have been surprised how little heat escapes in fact a little dangerous because we have got use to using electric induction when we go in the caravan tend to forget how dangerous gas is.

So with induction I would not worry about being near to CU or boiler it is only the heat in the pan although even with all the safety devices I would not put under the stairs.

Next to door is asking for it to be used as work space natural to want to put things down. Although placing a towel on an induction hob is not a danger even when switched on not so sure about a hand full of cutlery? I cringe with my wife when she uses the cooker as the one bit of work surface without clutter to dump what ever is in her hand.

Older electric cookers are more like the gas getting red hot at times and fire is always a problem. Also smoke near to a door. I have to use grill with kitchen door closed because other wise smoke alarm goes off. Either that or used the closed door grill with the fan going does work well but again not all ovens have 11 ways to set the heat some of course have more.

Yes I know in theroy you should design for any cooker but accepting you have a problem then by selecting a better quality cooker you can reduce the risks. Simple things like my kitchen door is glassed so I can see if anyone standing behind it.

But there is one major problem as said before in Wales so LABC is involved I would OK what ever you decide with them as last minute changes are not fun.

 

[plugwash]

Older electric cookers are more like the gas

IIRC the ceramic ones have a lot more thermal mass than a gas hob so they remain dangerous for longer after they are switched off.

I also made the mistake when I was a child of assuming that because the hob was no longer red it had cooled down. OUCH.

 

[viewer]

A full kitchen floor plan would help with ideas. The suggestion of putting it where you suggest is asking for an accident. Removing the door wouldn't help as the problem is that of moving people past the cooker. It would also remove the first line of protection in the event of a kitchen fire at night.

 

[diyer56]

A full kitchen floor plan would help with ideas. The suggestion of putting it where you suggest is asking for an accident. Removing the door wouldn't help as the problem is that of moving people past the cooker. It would also remove the first line of protection in the event of a kitchen fire at night.

I assumed the OP meant the door would be blocked up, rather than left as an archway or doorless doorway. Hence the suggestion of conversion to a serving hatch.

 

[GNServices]

Thanks for all the response,
It has guided me to the decision of removing the doorway (blanking the doorway off, it already had no door, was just the doorway).

However inconvenient it may be (to have to walk through living room to dining room), I think the convenience of having a more workable space and a cooker in a safe position over-rules.

I will be considering the hatch

 

[viewer]

I assumed the OP meant the door would be blocked up, rather than left as an archway or doorless doorway. Hence the suggestion of conversion to a serving hatch

Obviously your spot on - why didn't I see it that way? Please, don't answer that - my village is still looking for me.