Whose fault? Crack in new shower tray

[Dan45]

Amateurs put low level easy access trays on a plinth

Just wondering if there's anything else, from a pro's point of view?

 

[Bilabong007]

(I'm not a pro)

If I was setting out the tiles I would have made the corner look better, the small cut isn't ideal. Have they siliconed the corner or grouted it?

Did they tile off the tray or but it against a tile?

What did they do in preparation to the wall before tiling?

just a thought

Graeme

 

[Dan45]

Yes, other work done well.


The new shower tray arrived today. I notice that the edge is about 12mm thick, so it's quite possible the whole edge was left unsupported, to leave space for tiles etc.

If a riser kit was used, are you meant to also support the sides? It seems like there isn't anything for the sides. Are you meant to use timber for this? Or are the sides left with no support, and you rely on the strength of the tray?

If so, I don't think I can blame the builders for this

 

[^woody^]

If so, I don't think I can blame the builders for this

WTF?

Someone installs a cracked tray and they are not to blame?

 

[Nige F]

I'm not convinced that waste pipe has no way of being lowered so the tray sits on the floor. Unless it's a copper waste going into a cast iron soil pipe

 

[Dan45]

They said the waste pipe was a non standard diameter, and they couldn't get a replacement section of it. I can't remember what diameter it is, I have a photo though:

 

[John D v2.0]

I'm not a builder but I would have thought it's not literally the edge itself that needs supporting, but the overall tray against bending.

If the support battens are bending then the tray would fracture at that point, but if the tray as a whole is supported but that edge bit wasn't it wouldn't crack like that. Their proper riser kit is designed to give overall support in strategic locations but it won't support every edge 100%.

Also the stuff about fitting flush seems a bit opinionated, you can have your shower fitted however you like based on needs and budget! Ideally the builder would quote for either way even if it involved digging out the drains and running a new soil pipe, but that's down to agreement.

We are fitting an ensuite and are currently debating whether to have it flush but with the pipe boxed in at the ceiling of the lounge, or raised 2 inches with the pipe underneath. The only other option is going through near the end of joist that the chimney breast trimmers hang off. So it's all down to what compromises we are happy with.

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

Not really any such thing as a 'non standard' waste, other than the silly flexi things that come with Swedish sinks. Looks to me like it was too much work to alter the stack to make a lower connection, so they've raised the tray in order to reuse the existing boss. Was there a bath in that position originally?

 

[Keithmac]

Push fittings behind the tiled wall..