Why can't I get my wood brilliant white!

[big-all]

its well known that oil based varnishes go yellow with time
but never heard that about paint
and it usualy happens over the years

big all

 

[big-all]

had a word with hamilton
on novoserve forum he knows his stuff and he say
have any spills on the outside of the tins yellowed
he remembers spills yellowing in hours

big all

 

[Chris!]

I appreciate you asking around for me - thanks!

I don't recall any spills drying yellowish, but then there wasn't much. I had only used a small amount (one frame) so most of it stayed in the tin and around the rim.

I can't double check this now because we returned it last night and picked up another one with a different batch number. This will be given back to Dulux for testing and if found contaminated they will refund us.

I will keep you posted - though it may be sometime now before we hear anything.

Thanks again!

 

[big-all]

lets hope your butter milk colour sceme turns into snow white
rather than canary yellow

big all

 

[david and julie]

Correct me if I am wrong but I thought you weren't supposed to stir Dulux satinwood paint?

 

[Chris!]

I believe that only applies to non-drip!

Right or wrong - this tin (Dulux Trade; Satinwood) clearly instructs you to stir the paint before use.

 

[david and julie]

Just read the tin I recently used. It is Dulux, not non drip, and it says not to stir it. Mind you I got mine from B&Q and its not the trade version, there must be a difference.

Its a real pain in the a**e when this sort of thing happens, especially when you pay a premium for a top brand.

It will be interesting to see if they admit theres is a fault.

 

[Lonsdale]

In over thirty years of using different paints, I have never once come across a faulty batch.

My own opinion of Dulux,....no better than anything else, and costs twice as much.

A lot of paint that sells in the sheds, is made for the sheds by reputable companies but to a cheaper quality.

 

[Chris!]

There are many possible reasons for this! For example: -

1. you've been lucky
2. to you; white is white
3. customers not complained because the paint is new, so must be okay
4. the light reflected masks imperfections
5. against darker walls appears bright
6. tin says brilliant white, so it must be!

Apologies if I sound facetious, this is unintended. I have no doubt that what you said is genuinely true. I'd say that I am probably guilty of no.6 except that this frame lies against a wall also painted a lovely chalky white; Craige & Rose chalky emulsion (regency white). For those who don't know, this is a kind of period white, which is soft not brilliant, and yet the walls look as white, if not whiter, than the door frame.

So something definitely is awry here If it's not the paint then it has to be me or the frame itself

 

[Lonsdale]

Chris,

Exactly what did you use to stir the paint?

By the way, of your six reasons,

1. Very possible
2. No. Whites are quite different. With computer technology there are
now thousands of them. I am not that old that I can't see a difference.
3. Always white when you put it on (oil based) but then turns off white
after a period.
4. Not I think in your case
5. Ditto
6. Not so.

Ordinary white paint has a british standard No. 00E55 ( I think) Brilliant white is Brilliant white.

I can't see anything wrong with your preparation, the fact that the MDF and the wood are now the same colour suggests that the fault is in the paint.

That is a serious question by the way, what did you stir the paint with.

 

[Chris!]

Thanks for the amusing response.

I tend to stir paint (both gloss and emulsions) with an old wooden spoon that I bought to use in the kitchen but never did - so put it to better use.

This is good point and one which escaped me (reason no.7). I only ever used this spoon once about 2yrs ago (gloss) and didn't bother to clean it. It had set really hard by time I came to use it again, but did stir the brilliant white emulsion for the ceiling and undercoat for the frame and cleaned it this time as it is so easy with water.

It had thoroughly dried By time I needed to use it again for the satinwood, which I used before painting the walls.

Hope this helps! Please let me know if anything is unclear - thanks again for the chuckle!

 

[alfonso]

Hello chaps
just a thought, but have you considered your brushes?
How have you been cleaning and storing them? are they past their best or have they spent time in water, this could contaminate the paint from the brush head rusting internally.
Alf

 

[Chris!]

Alf - brushes are made by Harris (thought they make good brushes) and recently purchased. Although a pain, I do clean them by the book as I intend to keep them for future use.

 

[big-all]

ok have you had any luck

of course alfs point is just as important as the rest

so try a new brush to rule out the brush as a cause

big all

 

[Chris!]

No not yet!

I've been tied up with work and stripping more paint in between, so have not yet had the opportunity to try the new tin of finish on one of the other newly prepared door frames.

However, I will take your advise and try one of the new brushes not used before and let you know the outcome. I have not yet heard back from Dulux but when I do, I will let you know about that too!