Why do new-build houses have bathroom / toilet light switches outside of room?

... I think some of it now is down to the types of accessories being installed at new build. My observation, which is in no way conclusive!, seems to be: white accessories = pull cord switch but ... chrome = wall switch outside door.
If that observation were the reason for thinking/practices, it could be argued that it is the opposite of (safety-related) electrical common sense ...

... those who seem worried about condensation making touchable surfaces of an electrical accessory 'live' (which seems very improbable, anyway) would (should) presumably be more comfortable if what they could touch was earthed metal than if it wasn't, shouldn't they?

Kind Regards, John
 
So nice not having to turn the lights off after the kids!

Train your kids properly. I was never allowed to leave lights on. Told once, told second time, whack the third time. There wasn’t a forth time.
 
Train your kids properly. I was never allowed to leave lights on. Told once, told second time, whack the third time. There wasn’t a forth time.

If it is OK with you, I won't beat my kids. And I think the word you were looking for is teach, not train....
 
If that observation were the reason for thinking/practices, it could be argued that it is the opposite of (safety-related) electrical common sense ...

... those who seem worried about condensation making touchable surfaces of an electrical accessory 'live' (which seems very improbable, anyway) would (should) presumably be more comfortable if what they could touch was earthed metal than if it wasn't, shouldn't they?

Kind Regards, John
That's the reason why I wear a hat, I was told, as he used his hat to turn on the light just after I got a belt, was a barn not a bathroom, but switches have improved, condensation was a problem.
 
Good to know. I turned a box room into a new shower recently and bought a pull cord from B&Q. Bloody noisy. Was planning to look for quieter options.

Although, since putting movement sensor bulbs in the corridor, I might do same in the bathroom anyway. So nice not having to turn the lights off after the kids!
Those sensors often don't save electricity.
 
That's the reason why I wear a hat, I was told, as he used his hat to turn on the light just after I got a belt, was a barn not a bathroom, but switches have improved, condensation was a problem.
OK - but, as I presume you will have understood, my point was that you would not 'get a belt' by touching a piece of properly-earthed metal (and not anything else 'live'!), no matter how much condensation was about, whereas some believe that there is a risk of a shock if one touches an electrical accessory which is NOT earthed metal (i.e. plastic) if it is covered in condensation!

Kind Regards, John
 
why's that? actually, I probably know - one comes on during the day whenever I walk past!
Primarily because the 'sensors' consume a little electricity 24/7, potentially as much, or even more, than what an LED light would use (particularly if one usually remembered to switch it off when not reequired).

Kind Regards, John
 
Interesting, makes sense. Well, we got them so we don't have to keep getting up in the night to turn them off more than anything!
 
Interesting, makes sense. Well, we got them so we don't have to keep getting up in the night to turn them off more than anything!
Another issue about lights controlled by a movement sensor in a bathroom is that people not infrequently remain relatively 'motionless' (e.g. in bath, or even sitting on loo) for long enough to get 'plunged into darkness'. I know a good few people who have installed motion detectors in bathrooms (and some other places), only to remove them fairly soon because of this problem.

Kind Regards, John
 
why's that? actually, I probably know - one comes on during the day whenever I walk past!
And don't forget there are electronics in there, powered 24/7.

One of the office blocks I did some work in had 10 toilets over 5 floors, each had 5 4W CFLs which were switched on by the first person in the morning and off by the cleaners in the evening [lets say 12 hours but in practice likely less than that] = 12x20x5=1200 Watt Hours weekly. 3 sensors were installed per toilet set to approx 15 minutes: over the 2 traps, to cover the urinals and basins & airlock. The 3 sensors used about 5W between them =5x24x7=840 WH weekly. Every visitor added 5WH to the count So 1200-840=360 and 360/5=72 visits per week or 15 per day. I spent about 2 days working in the riser by the toilets on each floor and it was obvious to me the lights must have been on for most of the day. The net result was an increased consumption of roughly 70%.
Of course I realise the average domestic family bathroom doesn't have the same throughput but as someone else said training the users will usually be the most economical solution.
Around 24WH daily is a lot to recover assuming you have low energy lighting.
 
And don't forget there are electronics in there, powered 24/7.

One of the office blocks I did some work in had 10 toilets over 5 floors, each had 5 4W CFLs which were switched on by the first person in the morning and off by the cleaners in the evening [lets say 12 hours but in practice likely less than that] = 12x20x5=1200 Watt Hours weekly. 3 sensors were installed per toilet set to approx 15 minutes: over the 2 traps, to cover the urinals and basins & airlock. The 3 sensors used about 5W between them =5x24x7=840 WH weekly. Every visitor added 5WH to the count So 1200-840=360 and 360/5=72 visits per week or 15 per day. I spent about 2 days working in the riser by the toilets on each floor and it was obvious to me the lights must have been on for most of the day. The net result was an increased consumption of roughly 70%.
Of course I realise the average domestic family bathroom doesn't have the same throughput but as someone else said training the users will usually be the most economical solution.
Around 24WH daily is a lot to recover assuming you have low energy lighting.

Worth mentioning that frequent switching of CFLs shortens their life considerably so quite likely maintenance costs increased as well.
 

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