Windows Replacement - Old House Wooden Frames

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  1. mastersc

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    We are looking at buying this house and the window frames(plus other bits) are in a bad way.

    The edges are very flakey and in some parts pretty crumbled (in red)

    Looking at the pics is it all the windows and the wood surround that need replacing and Is the wood the supporting structure?

    Is there anything else I need to consider?

    Probably not the right forum but the hanging tiles, whats the best way to spruce them up?

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    unfortunately the image isnt high enough resolution to see detail

    my guess is the white windows are timber subframe with crittall inserts

    the house has structural timber posts, its possible the timber subframe could be taking some of the load though.

    the right hand side looks like a more modern addition.

    I cant see much wrong with the tile hanging, only that they dont look like traditional clay


    by the way replacing timber subframes and crittalls inserts is flipping expensive, you could get a similar look with aluminium windows in a sub frame.
    It would be a shame to change to modern upvc or timber windows -the sight lines would look heavy
     
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    Thanks for the reply. If we have the offer accepted I'll go round and take some close photos as I remember some we quite crumbled.

    Here is the rear, so a few windows to replace.
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    The Loggia bit on the right of the original you mention I think would be bricked up and changed into a room as its not really useful in the current form.

    Also a photo from the inside might help in seeing what the inserts are
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    Got some close ups today
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    are you in a conservation area or house listed?

    If you are, then be limited to what you can replace them with
     
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    the bay windows are structural oak subframes with metal crittall inserts

    expensive to replace -the cheapest option would be to replace the feature joinery, like the bay window in oak and maybe aly inserts (duration windows)
    iroko would be cheaper than oak and still look lovely.

    and consider the standard windows to be done in something like residence 9 upvc timber alternative.

    house looks to be 1930s so Id guess not listed or conservation?
     
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    Thanks guys for taking time to reply, really helpful information.

    Its 1920's and its not listed or in a conservation area so we can do what we like but want to keep the feel of the property.

    So when changing the windows in the bay for example are you saying rip the whole lot out including structural oak subframes?

    Also when you say expensive what rough numbers are we looking at? I have a few people lined up to quote in the new year, but is this type of work more of a specialist fitter job?

    Its the damp that worries me! See my thread in the building section! I think its been unheated for 2 years so walls are bubbling! Could be a moneypit!
     
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    well finally complete on this next week, been a saga with some planning permission from next door.

    We have swung from replacements to try and fix and restore some of these ourselves as most are not in bad nick. Obviously replace any rotten parts using a proper tradesman. But for the sound ones we will have a crack at doing it ourselves.

    What do you reckon as a cleaning then restore process, we would propably want a dark brown stain at the end.

    Some kind of fungal wash, then a bleaching product before the staining?
     
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