Wiring a replacement ceiling lamp

[GloriousEuropa]

Edit: sorry accidentally cut the title and hit post. Basically my Nan needs a new light fitting...

First of all, she tried the spark route and he said no it’s not worth the petrol to come out for one light.

I brought the instructions home with me... but I can’t make sense of them

Firstly her current light ceiling rose, simple enough. Old wiring of course. Loop in, loop out, switched line, etc.

Then this is the instructions for her new light

I think the loop in is a misprint and it’s meant to be red or brown?

Is that spare terminal opposite the loop in meant for the switch?

 

[jj4091]

See using a "terminal block" diagram https://www.diynot.com/wiki/Electrics:Single-way-lighting

 

[terryplumb]

Edit: sorry accidentally cut the title and hit post. Basically my Nan needs a new light fitting...

First of all, she tried the spark route and he said no it’s not worth the petrol to come out for one light.

I brought the instructions home with me... but I can’t make sense of them

Firstly her current light ceiling rose, simple enough. Old wiring of course. Loop in, loop out, switched line, etc.

Then this is the instructions for her new light

I think the loop in is a misprint and it’s meant to be red or brown?

Is that spare terminal opposite the loop in meant for the switch?

No it isn't. It's misprinted in the instructions. It is for the three red conductors that are currently in the loop terminal in the rose.
The switched live goes to the new light fittings live terminal. That is the red conductor currently in the terminal with the brown in the ceiling rose. You should mark it clearly before removing the wiring from the rose ,you don't want to mix it up with the other reds !!

 

[Mottie]

Why not just throw the instructions away and wire it the same way as the one that’s coming off plus the earth wire?

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

I think the loop in is a misprint and it’s meant to be red or brown?

Is that spare terminal opposite the loop in meant for the switch?

Correct, loop in is where all, but one of those red wires need to go.

Nothing should go in the far end of the one marked loop in. although if you cannot squeeze those three reds into one end, you could put two in one end, one in the other.

That one red wire, the one adjacent to your brown flex, goes into the terminal marked Switch Wire.

It looks as if you cable going to the switch is white outer, with two reds, which makes it easy to identify.

 

[Mottie]

It looks as if you cable going to the switch is white outer, with two reds, which makes it easy to identify.

Looks to me that one of the looped reds (right hand one) is a red sleeve as it’s thicker than the others.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Looks to me that one of the looped reds (right hand one) is a red sleeve as it’s thicker than the others.

Could be, difficult to be sure, but something for the OP to watch out for.

 

[bernardgreen]

as it’s thicker than the others.

It looks like the cable to the switch is Red +Red +Earth

 

[SpecialK]

Is the new light fitting not big enough to go over all of it?

 

[winston1]

Why not just throw the instructions away and wire it the same way as the one that’s coming off plus the earth wire?

Yes it is yet another example of manufacturers instructions being wrong. Not only have they got the loop colour wrong they are also suggesting lights are on rings.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Yes it is yet another example of manufacturers instructions being wrong. Not only have they got the loop colour wrong they are also suggesting lights are on rings.

Probably of Asian manufacture.

 

[GloriousEuropa]

Thanks for all the replies, everyone. Forgot to mention the light is actually from Dunelm! It's alarming they mislabelled the instructions!

Correct, loop in is where all, but one of those red wires need to go.

Nothing should go in the far end of the one marked loop in. although if you cannot squeeze those three reds into one end, you could put two in one end, one in the other.

That one red wire, the one adjacent to your brown flex, goes into the terminal marked Switch Wire.

It looks as if you cable going to the switch is white outer, with two reds, which makes it easy to identify.

Thank you, I appreciate it. So if I've read it right, would this be correct?

 

[EFLImpudence]

Yes.

 

[bernardgreen]

Very good mark up to show the correct connections.

Well done.

 

[GloriousEuropa]

Yes.

Very good mark up to show the correct connections.

Well done.

Wow, thanks for confirming guys. I guess I can have a go Monday when I go around. Cheers!