This is all really helpful thankyou. If you say he needs to deal with the flow problem first then ideally the next gas engineer in your opinions should be changing which part? I'm guessing ill be paying for a plate heat exchanger what ever happens as that would work out best financially for him?
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Well I don't have a crystal ball like Agile/Tony so I would be checking just the filter to begin with. Plate might be fine but flow through the boiler is too low causing it to cut out/cycle on and off. I'm not saying the plate definitely isn't scaled but you need to start at the beginning and work in a logical order. Don't just throw parts at it for no reason.
I dont use crystal balls.
Just normal diagnostic tools.
A scaled plate can be cleaned. But I expect your water is soft!
Tony
Had a new gas engineer out he replaced the filter but said it wasn't really blocked. He's going to fit a new plate heat exchanger.
He's charging me £200 all told does this seem fair? He said he's fitting a 12 plate rather than a 16 plate to make it cheaper, is that ok?
He's charging me £200 all told does this seem fair? He said he's fitting a 12 plate rather than a 16 plate to make it cheaper, is that ok?
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Certainly not in my view!
You can fit a larger one but NEVER a smaller one! He must be seriously mentally disabled to not understand how boilers work and what is needed.
He is already charging more than most would.
You need someone who is reasonably priced and does not just change parts willy nilly at YOUR cost.
I clean plate heat exchngers as that's cheaper for the client at £52 rather than about £90.
It is very easy for me to see if a plate is partially blocked!
Tony
You can fit a larger one but NEVER a smaller one! He must be seriously mentally disabled to not understand how boilers work and what is needed.
He is already charging more than most would.
You need someone who is reasonably priced and does not just change parts willy nilly at YOUR cost.
I clean plate heat exchngers as that's cheaper for the client at £52 rather than about £90.
It is very easy for me to see if a plate is partially blocked!
Tony
Right ok so we are saying it will work but my hot water won't be as hot?
It's a physically smaller plate so it won't be able to transfer heat as effectively and it'll block up again sooner too as a side note. Your boiler may also have problems regulating the heat as it'll be expecting to transfer better than it will be doing. It'll send 28kw of heat to it initially but the plate is only rated for 24kw. How much of an issue that will be I'm not sure because I'd never be stupid enough to try it.
I've just spoke to him on the phone told him I want the 16 plate or not too bother. He said that's fine and he will do it for the same price. Is £200 fair? I looked online think the plate is about £100 so £100 labour?
I would clean the existing
I also would have taken out and inspected the plate before I would recommend, cleaning/replacing, and if it needed it, I would then have cleaned it there and then, if it didn't, put it back and look for the fault
I also would have taken out and inspected the plate before I would recommend, cleaning/replacing, and if it needed it, I would then have cleaned it there and then, if it didn't, put it back and look for the fault
I have no idea. I don't know how long this job takes and what is involved
Ok so the gasman came back today. Aswell as cleaning and changing the filter, he has now removed and expected the pump and fitted a new 16 plate heat exchanger. Boiler is now running and hasn't cut out yet, but my flow is still not great and the water is still very very hot. He said he will come back and change the sensors on the main heat exchanger? Also said that there is no hot water control on my particular boiler and as he has just fitted a new plate heat exchanger the water will be hot. Does any of this sound correct?
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