Good point Pred, but all too often it's not the charities that deny the drugs to patients. It's the National Institute for Clinical Excellence (NICE) They make the decisions. Not even consultants who specialise in cancer can take the decision to offer treatment, without running it past these guys. NICE is probably run by accountants (as is most of the NHS these days) who don't base drug treatments on anything but monetary considerations. Might cost thousands to prolong someone's life by 3 or 4 yrs They conveniently forget that new, or even cheaper, life saving treatments could just be around the corner, so people could be saved. Perhaps time for NICE to step in and refuse treatment for HIV and AIDS.