lighting

[beckstir]

hi,
i went to replace a kitchen ceiling light for a spot light stripand found four different cables running into it , i removed them all ( not noting where they all came from ) big mistake !! i eventually worked out what cable was from where but was left with one extra cable ? i havent wired it in and now for some reason i have no power to the extractor fan, washer machine, dishwasher and 1 x double worktop socket !
i dont know a great deal about electrics but wouldnt have thought cables for sockets should be wired into a lighting circuit, does this sound strange ? and could there be any other reason for the appliances not working

 

[electronicsuk]

i havent wired it in and now for some reason i have no power to the extractor fan, washer machine, dishwasher and 1 x double worktop socket !
i dont know a great deal about electrics but wouldnt have thought cables for sockets should be wired into a lighting circuit, does this sound strange ? and could there be any other reason for the appliances not working

Unless you have accidentally tripped an RCD (assuming you have one) then there is something very wrong. Have you checked back at your consumer unit/fusebox that all the trips are up in the 'on' position?

Otherwise, it sounds as if your kitchen light has been fed direct from a ring final, which is potentially very dangerous indeed. It's unlikely to be the other way round (sockets fed from lighting circuit) as this would take out the trip/fuse on that circuit rather rapidly, assuming correct protective device being fitted.

 

[beckstir]

checked the fuse box there all on.
the one cable i havent wired into the light is a thicker cable than the others . i can get the lights to work but the light at the end of the circuit doesnt turn on and off remains on all the time.
so you wouldnt recommend re wiring the 4th cable into the light ( the main reason i left it out is its a right mission to get all the wires in

 

[ColJack]

at this junture I would HIGHLY recomend getting an electrician in as you're going to end up killing someone if you keep faffing about with it..

you are obviously out of your depth here...

your light is one of 2 you say?
so lets count the cables you should have...

live feed in...
live feed out.. ( to rest of house lights.. )
switch wire....
switched feed to other light...


oohhh look, 4 wires...

the reason your sockets don't work should be nothing to do with the lights.. unless for some reason the lights are wired from the fused spur that feeds your extract.. ( which if it is, then that's even more inscentive to call in the pro's and get it sorted.. )

turn all your breakers and RCD's / RCBO's off and on again as it is possible for them to trip and the lever be stuck, so they look like they are on..

 

[ColJack]

Otherwise, it sounds as if your kitchen light has been fed direct from a ring final, which is potentially very dangerous indeed. It's unlikely to be the other way round (sockets fed from lighting circuit) as this would take out the trip/fuse on that circuit rather rapidly, assuming correct protective device being fitted.

lets assume you meant radial shall we? as even with a leg disconnected, the bits that aren't working would still have power to them coming round the ring the other way...

 

[electronicsuk]

Otherwise, it sounds as if your kitchen light has been fed direct from a ring final, which is potentially very dangerous indeed. It's unlikely to be the other way round (sockets fed from lighting circuit) as this would take out the trip/fuse on that circuit rather rapidly, assuming correct protective device being fitted.

lets assume you meant radial shall we? as even with a leg disconnected, the bits that aren't working would still have power to them coming round the ring the other way...

Yes, you're right, radial would make more sense, especially as the OP now mentions one cable is bigger than the rest.

It would help a lot if you could provide a picture of the wiring at the ceiling, but probably only for our own interest, as I have to agree with ColJack that it's time to call in an electrician. Unless you are mistaken about no RCDs, RCBOs or MCBs having tripped, there must be something seriously amiss with your installation, or the two problems are purely coincidental and not related.