So who won the Leader's Debate?

Who came off the best?

  • Nick Clegg

    Votes: 9 40.9%
  • David Cameron

    Votes: 9 40.9%
  • Gordon Brown

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • None/ Equal

    Votes: 3 13.6%

  • Total voters
    22
  • Poll closed .
'Maybe I reply in kind from time to time....again, If I was going around swearing at people like some on here I would understand your comments, but I think this is more a smoke screen to hide the fact you have no comeback.'

Which one of you two do wish us to answer to? :wink:
 
Maybe I reply in kind from time to time....again, If I was going around swearing at people like some on here I would understand your comments, but I think this is more a smoke screen to hide the fact you have no comeback.
Ok, back to task then.

First, there are fairly sound arguments to have more frequent opportunities to cast out the wheat from the chaff - some of the MPs with highly dubious expense scandals could have been dealt with far more appropriately and efficiently. Similarly, the disgraceful occasional situation when an MP decides to change political allegiances and cross the floor could be dealt with properly. As could MPs who decide that mixing with the riff-raff (on trains) who pay their wages. As could MPs who break their or their party's pledge on, say, lisobon treaty referendum. The list goes on (and on and sadly on)

Also, it seems pretty obvious that the current government's time was up at least a year ago - this arbitrary 4/5 year thing has done us no favours (for a start we haven't had the opportunity to decide on whether "we" even wanted the political landscape that Brown had a carte-blanche to adopt when he took over the top job. Noone voted for his version of Labour politics, and we have been forced to accept it since there is no structure in place to enforce checks on a regular basis.

Although medium/long term policies need time to settle and take seed, there should be things in place to enable the electorate to pull the plug if it's clearly going t its up. Thus a quarterly referendum may provide at least an initial step in the right direction whilst reinfocing and rmeinding our political "masters" of what a dynamic democracy entails.
 
Maybe I reply in kind from time to time....again, If I was going around swearing at people like some on here I would understand your comments, but I think this is more a smoke screen to hide the fact you have no comeback.
Ok, back to task then.

First, there are fairly sound arguments to have more frequent opportunities to cast out the wheat from the chaff - some of the MPs with highly dubious expense scandals could have been dealt with far more appropriately and efficiently. Similarly, the disgraceful occasional situation when an MP decides to change political allegiances and cross the floor could be dealt with properly. As could MPs who decide that mixing with the riff-raff (on trains) who pay their wages. As could MPs who break their or their party's pledge on, say, lisobon treaty referendum. The list goes on (and on and sadly on)

Also, it seems pretty obvious that the current government's time was up at least a year ago - this arbitrary 4/5 year thing has done us no favours (for a start we haven't had the opportunity to decide on whether "we" even wanted the political landscape that Brown had a carte-blanche to adopt when he took over the top job. Noone voted for his version of Labour politics, and we have been forced to accept it since there is no structure in place to enforce checks on a regular basis.

Although medium/long term policies need time to settle and take seed, there should be things in place to enable the electorate to pull the plug if it's clearly going t its up. Thus a quarterly referendum may provide at least an initial step in the right direction whilst reinfocing and rmeinding our political "masters" of what a dynamic democracy entails.

OK...but it was common knowledge that Brown was going to be PM if Labour were voted in again...

As for MPs that break the law, yes there should be an exception there...a long with people that cross the floor. (I don't think anyone can be looked down on for not wanting to travel by train in less than 1st class...I wouldn't).
...but these are exceptions...a vast majority have no need for such frequent interruption and it would not help anyone in the long run to do so.
 
Another testing comeback :lol:
good night ****z.

...testing comeback? I have given up reasoned debate with you quite a long time ago. However you do have your uses. By acting thuggish and impolite you have perfectly confirmed my point.
 
OK...but it was common knowledge that Brown was going to be PM if Labour were voted in again...
it's the word "if" that is important here

As for MPs that break the law, yes there should be an exception there...a long with people that cross the floor.
This must be mandatory

(I don't think anyone can be looked down on for not wanting to travel by train in less than 1st class...I wouldn't).
Not at my expense :wink: On the other hand, I'm duty bound to suggest that there should be no segregation available in this day and age, and that the entire train should be "first class"


..but these are exceptions...a vast majority have no need for such frequent interruption and it would not help anyone in the long run to do so.
OK - so we agree on a compromise position. The devil woould be in the detail. Can you be bothered on this - not sure I can TBH.
 
:) Simply put, any out of the ordinary behaviour should result in 'asking the people' otherwise let them get on with with for 5 years.

Everything would be first class...if you could decide who else came on.

Give me a tiny seat, just clear out all the scum shouting and listening to music on their phones....that is first class enough :)
 
:) Simply put, any out of the ordinary behaviour should result in 'asking the people' otherwise let them get on with with for 5 years.
I'm not desperate to prolong this, nor do I want the last word. However, "out of the ordinary" would need some clear initial definitions with an easily accessible way of amending these definitions (we don't want to leave it open for some clever lawyer to argue pedantics and semantics for months on end)
 
:) Simply put, any out of the ordinary behaviour should result in 'asking the people' otherwise let them get on with with for 5 years.
I'm not desperate to prolong this, nor do I want the last word. However, "out of the ordinary" would need some clear initial definitions with an easily accessible way of amending these definitions (we don't want to leave it open for some clever lawyer to argue pedantics and semantics for months on end)

Oh yes, the looseness of the language is only to save time here, I would want it wrapped tighter than David Cameron's forehead in the law books. :)
 
Considering labour have been in power for 13 years and they've made a right royal cock-up of the economy, David Cameron should have wiped the floor with Gordon Brown. Not only did he not do it - he was wiped off the podium by Nick Clegg - he's a complete lightweight. He's got to go. Dump him.
 
Dump him when he bombs out at the election.
 
Considering labour have been in power for 13 years and they've made a right royal cock-up of the economy, David Cameron should have wiped the floor with Gordon Brown. Not only did he not do it - he was wiped off the podium by Nick Clegg - he's a complete lightweight. He's got to go. Dump him.

He lost to a person who could always claim "We have had nothing to do with any problem ever because we have never been in power".

The sheer nonsense coming out of Clegg was obvious for anyone except the very stupid X factor/Strictly come dancing idiot...however it would seem this country is full to the brim with them.

More popular than Winston Churchill the year after he won the second world war....for giving a hour speech, in the loosest langauge possible, stealing his big "Power to the people" line directly from the Tories "Big society" idea...

I despair of this country, I really do.
 
The sheer nonsense coming out of Clegg was obvious for anyone except the very stupid X factor/Strictly come dancing idiot...however it would seem this country is full to the brim with them.

I agree. They are the archetypal swinging voter - they choose your government for you. And never forget - they love an underdog.
 
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