I've known tradesmen who, if they suspect they are just going through the motions, will deliberately put a couple of critcal 'typos' in their written spec. so that it can't be copied by a chancer !
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I've known tradesmen who, if they suspect they are just going through the motions, will deliberately put a couple of critcal 'typos' in their written spec. so that it can't be copied by a chancer !
I don't think that's a terribly good analogy, since we all have a rough idea of what food ingredients cost and how long it takes to prepare a dish. Hence, if we saw that they were charging £25 for a plate of egg and chips,we wouldn't need to ask for the breakdown before we walked out (or didn't walk in).
It's difficult to see what 'decent' reason there could be for a professional or tradesman not being happy to reveal at least an approximate breakdown of their charges (even if only 'materials' and 'time/labour'), and I would personally regard a reticence to do that as a warning sign in itself.
Kind Regards, John.
If pricing of this type is at all reasonable, why do I get charged about half what Joe public does just because I employ subbies all the time. £ 700 for that job is excessive and if I were 3.14, I would do the job under a building notice instead of employing an electrician to do it.
Ban all sheds. Doing the work under a building notice has worked for me on at least three occasions. It is not risky, it is not lunacy provided that you follow the iee onsite guide and have some common sense.
Not very risky and a reward of about five five hundred saved.
Not very risky and a reward of about five five hundred saved.
Risk:
Finite, because if you don't tell LABC how you will comply with P1, and they decide, for whatever reason, that they don't like what you did, you'll have problems.
Reward: ZERO.
A Building Notice costs the same as a Full Plans submission.
A finite number divided by zero is infinity.
You have an infinite risk:reward ratio.
Please show us which council(s) charge about £500 less for a Building Notice submission than they do for Full Plans.
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Have you ever stopped to think maybe that particular electrician who quoted £700 didn't like the OP's attitude? I think somebody mentioned it on the previous page. £700 suggests 'he's a pain in the backside so I'll quote high and hope he doesn't say yes, but if he does then there's plenty of reward in it'.
Maybe, just maybe, if he changed his attitude then he might get some reasonable quotes. It's not as simple as clipping some cable to the wall, terminating it and walking away. What if his main bonding isn't up to scratch and the gas/water isn't easy to get to?
If there are extra works to be undertaken then the customer will have to pay for the extra work. Ideally, the electrician should advise that the earth isn't up to scratch when he or she looks at the job in the first place.
A building notice for this would cost about £ 100 depending on where you live. A full plans application for this would be ridiculous. I can't believe it has even been mentioned.
Ban all sheds, your mathematics is poor and your knowledge of building control seems to have come from another planet.
A building notice for this would cost about £ 100 depending on where you live. A full plans application for this would be ridiculous. I can't believe it has even been mentioned.
Ban all sheds, your mathematics is poor and your knowledge of building control seems to have come from another planet.
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Which London borough (or any council, if you like) charges about £100 for a Building Notice submission and about £600 for the total of a plan charge and an inspection charge?
Do you know what the term means?
Which bit?
The one which says that n/0=∞? If so please show me why.
Or the one where I said that if your claim that a Building Notice would save about £500 compared to a Full Plans submission was true that would mean that councils charged about £500 more for the latter than the former?
Actually it's come from council websites.
But this is all very simple to resolve - just answer my first question in this post.
I have a feeling that you're misunderstanding. My interpretation (maybe wrong) was that the postulated saving is in not employing 'an expensive electrician', not in the differential costs of different ways of dealing with the bureaucracy.
Kind Regards, John.
I never even mentioned a full plans application, I mentioned a saving of £500 which was based on him doing the work himself instead of paying well over the odds.
In answer to your question concerning a restaurant, I wouldn't spend £ 700 on a meal so I wouldn't spend much time making a decision. The electrician would make more than £ 500 for a half day's work according to the author and that isn't an honest days work, is it?
In answer to your question concerning a restaurant, I wouldn't spend £ 700 on a meal so I wouldn't spend much time making a decision. The electrician would make more than £ 500 for a half day's work according to the author and that isn't an honest days work, is it?
Define "honest days work".....
Not I.
jozeffo clearly wrote Building Notice, i.e. a specific way of notifying.
I clearly wrote that a Building Notice costs the same as a Full Plans submission.
jozeffo clearly wrote "A building notice for this would cost about £ 100 depending on where you live. A full plans application for this would be ridiculous."
So he is clearly aware that there are two different ways to notify.
He was not just advising notifying, he was advising a particular way to do it.
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