PLASTER CRACKING -MORE THAN A HAIRLINE?

Plaster has cracked even more after filling and leaving for a week. The plasterer has offered to take it all off and dot an dab it.Im not happy with this as this as I have been lead t believe this is the 'cheap and nasty way(thats why i paid for a proper job). Plaster will render if we wish but then cant guarentee it wont crack(Now he tells me!)We have limited options as cash in hand job. Advise please form you professionals. Tell me if im old school
Thanks
ok i thought this would happen, do not accept dot and dab you have paid for float and set and thats what you should have, tell him you will take him to court and he will be investigated by the tax man if hes telling you you have limited options because its a cash in hand job this will make him think again
 
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Right-so for comparison how much less would dot an dab be.we paid £2250 for a 3 bed semi minus three Walls we kept bear brick?
 
Right-so for comparison how much less would dot an dab be.we paid £2250 for a 3 bed semi minus three Walls we kept bear brick?
it will be cheaper but not by much, if i was you i would forget all about d&d and how much it would cost, do you really want to have plasterboard all over your house? £2250 is a lot of money to loose did he say he would pay for all the materials if it was d&d? im thinking 2 things here 1st thing is hes thinking of his pocket 2nd thing i suspect he knows hes not up to the job of floating and setting your house again as hes already said he cant guarantee it wont crack again, i think you have more power than you realize if you say you will take him to the small claims court then he will have to declare all what you have paid him also he will have to pay court cost and compensation if he looses so you have lots of power over him, if he thinks that because its a cash job and you have limited options hes wrong
 
Right-so for comparison how much less would dot an dab be.we paid £2250 for a 3 bed semi minus three Walls we kept bear brick?
it will be cheaper but not by much, if i was you i would forget all about d&d and how much it would cost, do you really want to have plasterboard all over your house? £2250 is a lot of money to loose did he say he would pay for all the materials if it was d&d? im thinking 2 things here 1st thing is hes thinking of his pocket 2nd thing i suspect he knows hes not up to the job of floating and setting your house again as hes already said he cant guarantee it wont crack again, i think you have more power than you realize if you say you will take him to the small claims court then he will have to declare all what you have paid him also he will have to pay court cost and compensation if he looses so you have lots of power over him, if he thinks that because its a cash job and you have limited options hes wrong
you dont have to listen to me though im only telling you what i would do, why dont you check out your options yourself? there are loads you could get another spread in to rectify it and give him the bill or try and get as much money back off him as you can then get another spread in, one things for sure i wouldent let a spread back in my house who has managed to mess up every single room the only reason i would let him back in is to hack all the rubbish work he has done off and give me a refund
 
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What Steve is saying is right, but given all the circumstances, i'd take the D&D for a few reasons -

Youve paid the guy, taking him to court will cost you money and if he hasnt got any money you cant get it back, been there, done that, lost alot of cash to a builder and then lost more trying to persue the money after geting a CCJ against him, turns out I threw good money after bad.

If this was a cash job, he could scarper, if you decide to tell the tax man, the tax man could become interested in where you got the cash from to pay him, that may or may not be a plesent experience for you.

You make this guy float and set it again and he cant do it you are back to square one, just a long time down the road.

Time is ticking now, skim on d&d board will be dry enough to paint in 7 to 10 days so technically you could be painting, ready for 2nd fix within two weeks of him finishing, or if he can board and skim one room at a time, you can work behind him. Float and set however could take 28 days of so until you can paint.
 
The tax man isn't interested in how you get paid. Cash is fine.

This money is lost. Was he a foreign chancer?

Use a reliable Brit tradesman in future.
 
What Steve is saying is right, but given all the circumstances, i'd take the D&D for a few reasons -

Youve paid the guy, taking him to court will cost you money and if he hasnt got any money you cant get it back, been there, done that, lost alot of cash to a builder and then lost more trying to persue the money after geting a CCJ against him, turns out I threw good money after bad.

If this was a cash job, he could scarper, if you decide to tell the tax man, the tax man could become interested in where you got the cash from to pay him, that may or may not be a plesent experience for you.

You make this guy float and set it again and he cant do it you are back to square one, just a long time down the road.

Time is ticking now, skim on d&d board will be dry enough to paint in 7 to 10 days so technically you could be painting, ready for 2nd fix within two weeks of him finishing, or if he can board and skim one room at a time, you can work behind him. Float and set however could take 28 days of so until you can paint.
no way would i take the dot and dab whats sexyswampthing going to think in a few years time when all the joints are cracked, also whats to say this guy is not going to make a mess of the dot and dab like he did the floating? i think any work done by this man will take you back to square 1
 
Use a reliable Brit tradesman in future.

Spot on Joe!!! and there's plenty of class out there. We talk down our own too much. Sure,, there'll always be the rubbish chancers out there too, but get recommendations/word of mouth, always the best bet,,, and the cheapest quote quite often means asking for trouble.
 
Use a reliable Brit tradesman in future.

Spot on Joe!!! and there's plenty of class out there. We talk down our own too much. Sure,, there'll always be the rubbish chancers out there too, but get recommendations/word of mouth, always the best bet,,, and the cheapest quote quite often means asking for trouble.
there is one way to get rid of the chancers, and thats to bring the plastering trade in line with the rest of the trades i recently hired a german to tile my floor, he was spot on not a tile out of place, in his country you can not set up shop as a tiler plasterer brickie or what ever until you have got certain qualifications, not like over here where anyone can say that they are a plasterer or what ever and go out there and make a mess of things, i think its the same in australia as well correct me if im wrong, so if we took that aproach
that would mean that all the good spreads out there without qualifications getting qualified (they shouldent mind doing this if it cleans our trade up) that will then leave the chancers without any good skills to look at other ways of earning a living, also it would make choosing a good tradesman easier for the clients
so to cap it all no one can work unless they have proven themselves to be good tradesmen and are qualified to some extent same as in other countries
im not sure what smilie to use i think ill use this one :idea:
 
Try doing a bathroom when you've got to get different trades in every farts end. They have a building licence scheme in Oz but it costs a fortune to get anything done. A plumber isn't allowed to do drains - you need a drainer etc. It's even illegal to change a tap washer - that's a plumbers job. Neither can you change a broken light fitting - you need a registered spark.

It's a nightmare.

BTW why did you pay a German instead of a Brit?
 
BTW why did you pay a German instead of a Brit?
he charged me £140 for 10m2 and was a pro tiler the other quotes were like £30 a m2 and i had this quote that i have cut and pasted
FLOOR TILING
Prepare kitchen floor and lay floor tiles
Fit 2x door thresholds and shave doors to suit
700.00
i also had another for £480
tbh when he come in and said £140 and told me about how he could not tile in his own country without his qualifications it impressed me, he is coming back to do more work for me, i have also got him a big job on a site i was on he now has 36 bathrooms to tile
i was also impressed with his attitude (same as mine) he would rather work for a low amount to get the job rather than be stuck at home doing nothing, £140 is better than earning nothing sitting at home those people who quoted me those silly prices were all brits joe, im not paying silly money to anyone
 
But he weakens our economy. He is probably living in a sublet wardrobe. We will all suffer when the UK goes titts up - as it is doing. He will send his money overseas to the richest country in Europe. WTF's he doing here?
 
Discussed with plasterer who is a local Brit with a good rep,he's done 5 of my friends houses over past 10yrs been in trade for over 20yr.he's admitted it's his fault ad he didn't realise the house was so dry.he will float n boat if I want but he said this time he will have to soak the Walls with a hose(I've just fitted 25sqm of reclaimed parquet and I don't want it getting wet)he is being very co-operative.Wat to do as court isn't an option.he is doing the job but now I'm so confused as I can't have it cracking again.tried to upload pics but can't on iphone
 
He doesn't need to hose it he needs to PVA it to control the suction. Where's he been for the past 20 years if he doesn't know that? :confused:
 

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