I always thought...

[LargeWrench]

All of the ones who need to wake up. As soon as somebody puts a post up questioning immigration policies and or integration it's branded as racist.

I've often wondered why Germany is never accused of racism (even though they don't allow the offspring of Immigrants , born there) to claim German nationality? Are they a race apart (from the rest of Europe) (oops , well they believed they were a race apart 70 odd years ago, didn't they?)

We heard you the first time

Got a reliable source for that by the way?

 

[LargeWrench]

I don't get what your trying to say here. I'm not denying that it happened and that they were asian. They should be punished with a stretch inside. What i'm pointing out was your ridiculous stereotyping and your strange idea that we should deport somebody who was born and bread here and is a British citizen because they committed a crime. I then asked you if your plan would also apply to other ethic minorities but you conveniently failed to answer!

And Alarm agreed with me that perhaps we should change the law on nationality here in the UK to something along the lines they have in Germany,,, Do keep up dear.

Luckily for us our country is one of the most tolerant in the world

Nahhh way off there,!!!!! Unluckily for us, our MP's are the tolerant ones who keep the borders open to all and sundry. They make no attempt to stem the tide of immigration into this country. We're fast becoming the dustbin of the world. We're already France's dumping ground for the illegals lining the roadsides of Calais.
Time to shut the doors and put up a rather large "CLOSED" sign.

I agree that immigration was out of control under labour. Especially when so many young Brits couldn't and can't now find work. However, Immigration is a fact of life and happens across the world. The sad fact is, without immigration this country is screwed. We have an ever ageing population who will cost us a fortune in the future in pension payments & healthcare. Not only that, the birth rate has fallen rapidly leading us to have too few tax payers to pay for the older generation. Whether you like it or not immigration is needed, not at the level seen under labour, but it's needed. We can't hide from that fact.

You might not think it's good that we have a tolerant society but i think the majority do. Don't you think it's good that we can have a society where we all get on and other cultures are mixed in with ours? How many people 50 years ago would've eaten a curry on a saturday night? Not many! Yet that aspect of an immigrant culture has enhanced ours. Of course theres problems amongst a minority of immigrants, but to stereotype a whole group of people is both wrong and dangerous.

 

[joe-90]

Is that the only positive you can find? People eat curry? FFS.

 

[joe-90]

The problem is that we are ending up with an 'Asian' population rather than 'ageing'.

 

[joinerjohn]

Copied from Wiki

Immigration into Germany.
"See also: Turks in Germany and Vietnamese people in Germany
One of the biggest immigration waves to Germany started in the 1960s. Due to a shortage of laborers during the Wirtschaftswunder ("economic miracle") in the 1950s and 1960s, the Western-German government signed bilateral recruitment agreements with Italy in 1955, Greece in 1960, Turkey in 1961, Morocco in 1963, Portugal in 1964, Tunisia in 1965 and Yugoslavia in 1968. These agreements allowed the recruitment of so called Gastarbeiter to work in the industrial sector for jobs that required few qualifications. Children born to Gastarbeiter received the right to reside in Germany but were not granted citizenship; this was known as the "Aufenthaltsberechtigung" ("right to reside"). Many of the descendants of those Gastarbeiter still live in Germany and many picked up German citizenship.
The GDR also recruited Gastarbeiter, who mostly came from Vietnam, North Korea, Angola, Mozambique and Cuba. Following the fall of the Berlin Wall and German reunification in 1990, the population of guest-workers still remaining in the former East Germany faced deportation, premature discontinuation of residence and work permits as well as open discrimination in the workplace."

Apparently they changed the law in 2005 (7 yrs ago) and immigrant workers now have the right to German citizenship. (but only after passing strict requirements (including, The ability to speak German to B1 standard, Has a legal right to reside in Germany, Does not have a criminal record, Does not live on welfare or benefits, Has legally lived in Germany for the last 8 yrs. Undertake a citizenship test, Swear an oath of allegiance to Germany and Renounce all former citizenship of another country (with certain exemptions)
We here in the UK have nothing even approaching these strict requirements.

 

[libby lou lou]

Not only that, the birth rate has fallen rapidly leading us to have too few tax payers to pay for the older generation.

I wonder who is making up for that? numnuts.

 

[sooey]

Well on the way to establishing their world wide caliphate, don't even need to go to war to do it.

 

[joinerjohn]

Well on the way to establishing their world wide caliphate, don't even need to go to war to do it.

Too true sooey, They are taking over the UK by stealth.

 

[sooey]

It's happening all over the world and is one of the stated aims of islam.

 

[libby lou lou]

I posted a vid a while back, says it all.

 

[LargeWrench]

Not only that, the birth rate has fallen rapidly leading us to have too few tax payers to pay for the older generation.

I wonder who is making up for that? numnuts.

What would your idea be then? Kick out all the non whites and all the rest of us pay more in taxes to cover the army of pensioners that is ever increasing? There is a reason why people like yourself don't have a say in government policy

 

[joinerjohn]

Not only that, the birth rate has fallen rapidly leading us to have too few tax payers to pay for the older generation.

I wonder who is making up for that? numnuts.

There is a reason why people like yourself don't have a say in government policy

"People like yourself ???? Care to explain this statement for Libby's benefit please?

(are you saying that Libby (and people like that) shouldn't have any sort of say in the country, they hold so dear?

 

[joe-90]

Not only that, the birth rate has fallen rapidly leading us to have too few tax payers to pay for the older generation.

I wonder who is making up for that? numnuts.

What would your idea be then? Kick out all the non whites and all the rest of us pay more in taxes to cover the army of pensioners that is ever increasing? There is a reason why people like yourself don't have a say in government policy

So Poles aren't white then?

Most migrant workers are on low wages so pay little (if any) tax. If they have dependants in this country they claim Child Tax credits - so are a net drain on the country. If the kids are overseas they still drain the system with Child Benefit. So how does that help us?

 

[joinerjohn]

It's wrong that Eastern European workers here (with children back in whatever country they come from) can claim Child Benefit anyway. These workers (when they first come here) have not contributed anything to the country) Their kids are still living in Poland, Czech Republic , or wherever. They should not be allowed to claim Child Benefit for these kids whatsoever (unless they have worked here and paid NI contributions for a period of not less than 10 yrs)

 

[Susiejb]

Totally agree, with a 164.00 members and countless 'visitors' I wonder how many people are insulted by the continuation of the racist posts that persist on here.

All of the ones who need to wake up. As soon as somebody puts a post up questioning immigration policies and or integration it's branded as racist.

Sooey maybe I chose the wrong word there...I am not against controlled immigration at all, and I too think it is ridiculous that we aren't able to discuss the subject openly without being called racist...my point was that conversations on here are not just private conversations between friends...they are here recorded in black and white for anyone to read...and I think some of the comments and the way that they are written could be very offensive to people visiting the forum and reading GD.