Gas supply to new hob

[FiremanT]

I was able to save the street from blowing nearly all the houses and think how many lives I saved that day!

Probably more than 100 lives!

You are such a hero!

Ronan point in london sufferred a gas leak. Due to the design of the building, it collapsed, and FOUR people, tragically, were killed, and 17injured. This incident led directlty to the introduction to the modern gas safety regs.

In Clacton, last month, a house was wrecked by a gas explosion. Result: ONE person injured and in a burns unit.:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-17582079

Now, the London incident was a large leak in a massive block of flats. Yuo are talking about a terraced house! How, pray, do you extrapulate your heroics into a 100 person life saving action.?

And, by the way, the leak would be most unlikely to have reached the critical 5 - 15% concentration to ignite.

Your suggestion to pressure test at 6" is wrong.

This forum is specifically barred from offering gas advice.

 

[Mikefromlondon]

Indeed you are right, and I am not asking for a medal, I am sure in an emergency anything closer to the best can be used to safe guard something pausing a potential danger.

Unfortunately, we don't all think alike, and many of us in a potentially dangerous situation will act differntly, each situation i didn't think at time that I needed to call the emergency team for them to just come and tighten a little screw that was left ineadvertently loose, we are all humans and prone to making silly mistakes!

Its like you are saying that all gas safe engineers are super humans and they can never make a mistake, even the police officers on duty end up crashing cars yet they are highly trained pros, ambulance drives end up themselves in a hospital! so my point is that there is nothing particular extraordinary ability that all gas safe engineers are made of, they are just ordinary people who are prone to making mistakes too. They are not super humans, and surely there is nothing I don't know that they do.

 

[Mikefromlondon]

As for my quoting pressure for testing at 6" of water, this was the minimum pressure I suggested , based roughly on the maximum pressure likely to be carried through the pipes at around 20mbar where I took 1" equals to about 2.5 mbars, yes indeed it should have been 8" minimum , gas regulations may dictate a higher test pressure possibly around 100mbars.

But yes testing at 6" is still better than not testing it at all. Of course the gas regulations should be followed strictly.

 

[Dan Robinson]

my point is that there is nothing particular extraordinary ability that all gas safe engineers are made of, they are just ordinary people who are prone to making mistakes too. They are not super humans, and surely there is nothing I don't know that they do

I think the last few pages have demonstrated admirably how little you know Mike. The more you go on the dafter you come across.

 

[a4c]

Well, thanks to all who've posted here, its been a learning experience for me.

Main lesson learnt is that next time I'll just go ahead and do whatever it is I'm thinking of doing without attempting to get any advice.

I bet the qualified people who responded by saying "just call a gas fitter" etc have done electrical work which in theory should have been done by an electrician, but I guess that's different in your minds...

Feel free to continue posting if you have a really empty life and feel the need to regularly massage your own ego or other body part.

 

[linkyplumb]

Main lesson learnt is that next time I'll just go ahead and do whatever it is I'm thinking of doing without attempting to get any advice.

Feel free to continue posting if you have a really empty life and feel the need to regularly massage your own ego or other body part.

You carry on with that outlook, maybe we will read about you in the paper.

As for being empty or egotistic, you are the one who came on here asking for advice. You obviously were unsure of the correct way of going about it, otherwise you would not of asked.
And because no one has told you exactly what you wanted to hear, you have thrown your toys out of the pram.

 

[Mikefromlondon]

I still can't understand why you need a Gas Cooker when you can use an Electrical one?


Currently having some issues with a warm air heating in a house, and thinking of going storage heaters on ecconomy 7 terrif, get rid of this awefull mess with Gas and its safety aspects. Electricity is really safe and it doesn't kill people when they are asleep, not unless some unqualified runs up doggy wiring that catches fire whilst you are asleep!

 

[roguetrader]

Mike, from London, really loved helping out on internet forums...

 

[FiremanT]

As for my quoting pressure for testing at 6" of water, this was the minimum pressure I suggested , based roughly on the maximum pressure likely to be carried through the pipes at around 20mbar where I took 1" equals to about 2.5 mbars, yes indeed it should have been 8" minimum , gas regulations may dictate a higher test pressure possibly around 100mbars.

But yes testing at 6" is still better than not testing it at all. Of course the gas regulations should be followed strictly.[/quote]

Hmmmmm.

 

[Mikefromlondon]

I am not here to sit for a Gas safety regulations exam! only common sense dictates that ideally one should pressure test all pipework, so how many heating engineers do you actually see conducting such pressure tests? at more than 4 bars? I bet, most will just fill up and wait for any leaks to occur and then on discovering leaky joints they go through having to drain the entire system to go back and remedy the leaks,

Please don't consider yourselves Gods of Gas.


You have absolutely no idea how much knowledge I pocess and you are in no way to judge me or my abilities, I could judge your work for that matter.

 

[linkyplumb]

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I know how much knowledge I posess, you won't be able to measure it in your entire life!

Thats right, my measuring equipment does not measure that low

 

[Dan Robinson]

You really need to stop.

If you agree the regs need to be followed.... why would common sense have anything to do with it??

 

[Mikefromlondon]

gang up culture, grow up! and get life, bully boys! is there a two finger symbol on here ?

 

[Mikefromlondon]

Yes regulations need to be followed when you are dealing with gas, not when you just have to lay a pipe, how many people actually working for laying gas pipes are registered individuals work for the Transco?


Oh and you are saying you don't get gas leaks if pipes are laid by Transco or other registered gas safe engineers!

 

[Dan Robinson]

eeerrr. It's a gas pipe.... the regs apply.

how many people actually working for laying gas pipes are registered individuals work for the Transco?

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.


Linky - my manometer goes to 3 decimal places... still think it would struggle to register this guy