80MPH on motorways?

[subman101]

I think that most supermarkets and whatever manufacturing we have left now operate on a last minute supply basis. It saves them from having to tie too much money up in stock. There's a name for it which escapes me at the moment.

Yep, there is a word - it's elluding me too. Suppose they have to show their shareholders a fast turnover, so cannot afford to have endless supplies of heinz beans or soups on their shelves for too long.

I suppose that space in supermarkets is a premium, unlike a long-term storage warehouse.

This chase for money money money will be the end of "us"

 

[subman101]

Never work, if the train cargo quadrupled overnight it would account for about 5% of road haulage, also everything would cost more due to the fact that there would be more labour handling cost, load van, van to train, tip van load train, train from say London to Manchester, tip train, load van, that was how i started trucking in Germany in 1977, very inificient.

Thanks for the reality check. Still a shame though.

Maybe there's some other way of transporting goods without having to rely on HGV's on motorways. (BTW - I'm not criticising pro drivers - we all make mistakes on roadways, so there's no prevailing theory going on here as to whom is more competent than whom).

 

[pred]

Asda, Tesco etc have maximised the stores for selling goods, their storage out the back is quite small, the RDCs "regional distribution centres" dotted around the countryside are the storage for the supermarkets, some getting 10 or more deliveries a day. White van man would NEVER cope.

 

[alumni]

Yep, there is a word - it's elluding me too. Suppose they have to show their shareholders a fast turnover, so cannot afford to have endless supplies of heinz beans or soups on their shelves for too long.

I suppose that space in supermarkets is a premium, unlike a long-term storage warehouse.

This chase for money money money will be the end of "us"

Just in Time.

Stock is money tied up.
However, large stocks can, and do, lead to inertia in meeting the demands of customers.

And don't forget the tax implications at year end.

 

[subman101]

Asda, Tesco etc have maximised the stores for selling goods, their storage out the back is quite small, the RDCs "regional distribution centres" dotted around the countryside are the storage for the supermarkets, some getting 10 or more deliveries a day. White van man would NEVER cope.

Unless we had a major rethink.

If one reversed the large supermarket trend and reverted back to local specialised stores....what would happen? Trends can change in both directions, surely??

 

[subman101]

And don't forget the tax implications at year end.

I understood your other points, but not his one Please elaborate if possible

 

[seco services]

so there's no prevailing theory going on here as to whom is more competent than whom).

Wouldn't put it down to competent but time schedule.

 

[alumni]

Asda, Tesco etc have maximised the stores for selling goods, their storage out the back is quite small, the RDCs "regional distribution centres" dotted around the countryside are the storage for the supermarkets, some getting 10 or more deliveries a day. White van man would NEVER cope.

Unless we had a major rethink.

If one reversed the large supermarket trend and reverted back to local specialised stores....what would happen? Trends can change in both directions, surely??

Don't you think the supermarkets haven't thought about it?

Like pred says, the big stores can get 10 or more artics delivering per day - various types of loads.
The small express style stores they've opened now get the one drop (if planned correctly) of mixed products ready to wheel into the store). It just happens to be delivered in an artic rather than white vans.
Bear in mind these 'express' stores are turning over upwards of £45k / week.

 

[subman101]

so there's no prevailing theory going on here as to whom is more competent than whom).

Wouldn't put it down to competent but time schedule.

Nature of the beast? Time constraints sort of insist on certain modus operandi - not cutting corners but pushing road infrastructure to different limits than those by which "normal" road users tend to operate?

 

[alumni]

And don't forget the tax implications at year end.

I understood your other points, but not his one Please elaborate if possible

Stock on shelf at year end is treated as money (in simplistic terms) so taxman wants his cut of it. Hence for large companies, this can be a serious amount.

 

[sooey]

And don't forget the tax implications at year end.

I understood your other points, but not his one Please elaborate if possible

Stock on shelf at year end is treated as money (in simplistic terms) so taxman wants his cut of it. Hence for large companies, this can be a serious amount.

Maybe they should give the taxman 20,000 large eggs and a half a million bog rolls.. See how he likes that.

 

[subman101]

Don't you think the supermarkets haven't thought about it?

Evidently so - hence the express stores @£45K per week turnover as you said.
But still the local trader manages to survive and make enough profit to pay the rent, taxes and income needed to pay for personal mortgage, loan, fuel car....

It's just so complicated that one's head could explode (like the Riddler in the Batman movie.)

There's still remains the overarching view - in my naive mind - that this is not the way we should be going about things!

 

[subman101]

Stock on shelf at year end is treated as money (in simplistic terms) so taxman wants his cut of it. Hence for large companies, this can be a serious amount.

Thank you. I was unaware of the taxman taking a percentage cut of perceived assets

 

[pred]

Road haulage in britain is down to a fine art, take TNT, if you post a parcle from say Bristol to Exeter, it is collected in the daytime taken back to the local depot, loaded onto an artic, taken to Tamworth, put on one of about 200 loading bays where it is emtied onto a big conveveyor belt then taken off and loaded in the relevant trailer, when that trailer is full it's taken back to the local depot in Exeter, then delivered that day. This is very cost effective and saves wagons criss crossing all over the place.

 

[subman101]

Road haulage in britain is down to a fine art, take TNT, if you post a parcle from say Bristol to Exeter, it is collected in the daytime taken back to the local depot, loaded onto an artic, taken to Tamworth, put on one of about 200 loading bays where it is emtied onto a big conveveyor belt then taken off and loaded in the relevant trailer, when that trailer is full it's taken back to the local depot in Exeter, then delivered that day. This is very cost effective and saves wagons criss crossing all over the place.

Talking without any real knowledge of logistics here , the question I have is whether it really is necessary to deliver the package the next day or whether (if it were left a few days later say) a fuller container on a "slower" route would have sufficed? Which is sort of my original point.