Found some nightmare wiring today

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I went round to a friend of my Missus today to have a look at some lights that stopped working. Of course, turned out they had just decorated the bathroom and let the the light fitting hang down, but i was assured " we didnt disconnect anything we just let it hang down!"

Always worries me when the first thing somebody says is "i didnt disconnect anything, honest"

What i saw concerned me greatly. The lighting circuit is wired in double insulated singles. All cores are black with no tape to identify live/switched live etc. There is no earth. The wiring looks to be original for the house - 1963. The consumer unit is a 17th edition dual RCD board which has a sticker on it saying it was last tested a year ago. The cables in the lighting circuit are badly corroded and the insulation has cracked and fell off in numerous places (the places i could see) exposing the copper. There have obviously been repairs done to this age related wear, but with insulation tape and sellotape.

Every light fitting and switch in the house is metal.

The problem was that after decorating the bathroom, the lights in the hallway, and both bedrooms had stopped working. The bathroom light worked ok. After getting the light fitting off the ceiling i found a loop neutral in a choc block on its own. This sorted out the hallway and bedroom lights.

I said to the couple that they urgently need to have the place rewired as i dread to think what condition the socket circuit is in, as well as in the mean time getting the metal switches and fittings changed to plastic! Of course, this is probably good advice but they may decide to ignore it. Im amazed nobody has died yet, or at the very least that the MCB's/RCD's have not been tripping out! Hard to believe that its had a new CU and also been tested! hmmmm
 
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Forgot to mention that the live loops to the switches from the MCB are also wired in double insulated black inner core singles! everything in fact appears to be black. No sign of red anywhere!
 
It appears to be rubber. Infact thinking about it, i think the conductor was probably in fact aluminium and not copper. Not PVC 100%
 
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I was going to say it must be rubber if it is flaking off in places. Even badly treated PVC does not do that.

There's a test sticker on it? Amazing! Let me guess: there's no name or address sticker on it, though!

The conductor is probably tinned copper- silver in colour. Aluminium was more 1970's.
 
Sound like VIR, is the sheathing black?
It's defo a re-wire, you must stress this out-loud to the home-owner.
I have seen some VIR that defies physics!
 
Is there any paperwork with this job?

It could have been done within best advice.

No, scrap that, sorry. I notice the fittings are still Class I.
 
I am wondering if the wiring and property is older than 1963.

Does sound like VIR, which is often in the wooden cap and case trunking - but that's really old.

How are the singles installed?
 
Apparently there is no paperwork. The house was a rental originally and the couple in it now, moved into it as a rental but then proceeded to purchase it from the landlord about 3 months ago.

Yes your right - no name or address details on the test sticker.

The CU is a right bodge job as well. The state of cables inside is no better than what i saw on the lighting circuit. All black core cable apart from the earths on the ring main. It all appears to be singles. The earths look very small indeed.

Its rubber insulation im sure. Ive never seen PVC doing that either. Its horrendous. Whats even more annoying and concerning is that whilst they rented the property, an electrician came round to install some LED lighting into the wooden flooring. To supply that, he has spurred off a socket in 1mm T&E and gone straight to a light switch. Split the live at the switch, and taken the switched live, earth and neutral down a plastic trunking and into a channel cut into the skirting board where apparently (i have not seen this) there is a transformer behind.

This was a guy from the local paper. No minor works cert here either. Most definitely not to regs or even good practice. If it was me id be s****ing myself living there and using anything electrical.
 
I am wondering if the wiring and property is older than 1963.

Does sound like VIR, which is often in the wooden cap and case trunking - but that's really old.

How are the singles installed?

For the lighting circuit which is the only bit i really had to look at, i couldnt really tell how they are installed above the ceiling although the loop neutral which was disconnected was loose - if i pulled it in the bathroom, it moved in the hallway. Through the hole i made it looked to be clipped in places to the joists, but in other places just strewn across the plasterboard. The cable is most badly aged where it crosses a joist or pipe.

It cannot be much older than the 60's. It looks to be a property of that era.
 
You'll probably find it's badly perished at the ends where terminated close to a lampholder too.

Fine until you move it..... ;)
 

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